Let's impeach the president.

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by 12thMan

I mean, who has solid ideas on terrorism? Certainly not the Republicans. Washington as a whole has been in a reactionary mode post 9/11; On both sides of the aisle, I might add.

This notion that the Dems don't have any solid ideas, in my opinion, just isn't true. Especially on terrorism. Yes, the Dems have had some issues, but I don't think they lack "ideas". I think they have, at least up until now, lacked solid leadership that can brand the party together and move them in one direction. This is why this election is so important. The nominee, and hopefully the new President, whether that be Hillary or Obama, has to be a visionary and set the course for the party for the next 8 years, if not more.

So your saying the terrorist plotts that we have broken up over the past couple of years and just this past weekend have been reationary. I say everything that the president has tried to do to fight terrorism the dems. have attacked him for one reason or another. Could you please give us a few of the dems. ideas to fight terrorism sense you say they have these ideas.

[dmek25]

Originally Posted by firstdown

So your saying the terrorist plotts that we have broken up over the past couple of years and just this past weekend have been reationary. I say everything that the president has tried to do to fight terrorism the dems. have attacked him for one reason or another. Could you please give us a few of the dems. ideas to fight terrorism sense you say they have these ideas.

this is normal politics. everyone gets in an uproar over this, but it happens with every administration. no one gets any free passes any more. remember the republicans questioning bill clinton on the amount he would spend on a haircut?

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by dmek25

this is normal politics. everyone gets in an uproar over this, but it happens with every administration. no one gets any free passes any more. remember the republicans questioning bill clinton on the amount he would spend on a haircut?

I don't think that the Rep. party attacked him about his hair cuts it was more like the Rush Lim. and talk shows. They did not attack him getting the hair cut but attacked the fact that the airport had to stop for around 1 1/2 hours while he got the hair cut.

[dmek25]

Originally Posted by firstdown

I don't think that the Rep. party attacked him about his hair cuts it was more like the Rush Lim. and talk shows. They did not attack him getting the hair cut but attacked the fact that the airport had to stop for around 1 1/2 hours while he got the hair cut.

and congress doesn't have anything better to do? come on. if you are a Republican, its your duty to attack the Dem's on as many levels as you can. and the same goes for the Dem's. its not about beliefs anymore. its attacking each other. and this is what we have come to

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by dmek25

and congress doesn't have anything better to do? come on. if you are a Republican, its your duty to attack the Dem's on as many levels as you can. and the same goes for the Dem's. its not about beliefs anymore. its attacking each other. and this is what we have come to

I don't have a problem with them attacking (so to speak) each other on ideas its the personal attacks that is getting so old.

[12thMan]

Originally Posted by firstdown

I don't have a problem with them attacking (so to speak) each other on ideas its the personal attacks that is getting so old.

But you see this is where everything becomes gray. Attacks beget more attacks, and at some point they do become personal.

Each side and each candidate is constantly trying to get the edge by boosting his/her poll numbers. Unfortunately, we're breeding a generation of politicians that are more programmed and concerned by they want the polls to read the next morning.

[12thMan]

Originally Posted by firstdown

So your saying the terrorist plotts that we have broken up over the past couple of years and just this past weekend have been reationary. I say everything that the president has tried to do to fight terrorism the dems. have attacked him for one reason or another. Could you please give us a few of the dems. ideas to fight terrorism sense you say they have these ideas.

For the record, we've done a great job at breaking up terrorist plots over the past few years. The JFK incident this weekend and the Fort Dix plot are two that immediately come to mind.

Secondly, I don't want to get into this my party vs. your party jousting. Debate is healthy, critism is not. But I won't stand around and let people take shots at the Dems as the party of 'no ideas' when this is by and large George Bush's war. That fact is we have to move forward and collectively figure out a way to make this work.

It's not that the Dems have attacked him so much on his war on terror, remember most of them voted in favor of invading Iraq. It's that they aren't satisfied with the current results and the President's reluctance to change course. Those are the two biggest issues Congress and the Senate have. This isn't a Democratic or Republican issue, this is the general mood in Washington right now.

As far as what the Dems 'ideas' are for getting out of Iraq? Well, I think that all depends on which candidate you actually talk to or listen to. Let's face it, there are no good options on the table right now. The options are bad and worse. But they do all, pretty much, unanimously agreee that it's time to withdraw troops in a timely fashion. I think there are some slight differences between the candidates on how to do this and under what timelines.

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by 12thMan

For the record, we've done a great job at breaking up terrorist plots over the past few years. The JFK incident this weekend and the Fort Dix plot are two that immediately come to mind.

Secondly, I don't want to get into this my party vs. your party jousting. Debate is healthy, critism is not. But I won't stand around and let people take shots at the Dems as the party of 'no ideas' when this is by and large George Bush's war. That fact is we have to move forward and collectively figure out a way to make this work.

It's not that the Dems have attacked him so much on his war on terror, remember most of them voted in favor of invading Iraq. It's that they aren't satisfied with the current results and the President's reluctance to change course. Those are the two biggest issues Congress and the Senate have. This isn't a Democratic or Republican issue, this is the general mood in Washington right now.

As far as what the Dems 'ideas' are for getting out of Iraq? Well, I think that all depends on which candidate you actually talk to or listen to. Let's face it, there are no good options on the table right now. The options are bad and worse. But they do all, pretty much, unanimously agreee that it's time to withdraw troops in a timely fashion. I think there are some slight differences between the candidates on how to do this and under what timelines.

You were talking about their idea on terrorism not the Iraq war so what is their ideas to fight terrorism?