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Old 06-20-2007, 07:45 PM   #1
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Blache very nearly became head coach of the 49ers a few years ago, before they stunned everyone and hired Dennis Erickson.

I'd love to see, over the next two years, guys like Earnest Byner and Kirk Olivadotti take on a bigger role with the team coordinating the offense and defense and emerge as an in-house candidate to be head coach. That's something that's missing I think from Gibbs' legacy, a homegrown coaching tree.
IMO Blache will become a head coach in this league very soon.

My thoughts on Byner and Olivadotti, I don't think so, and really could care less.

The only thing right know that's missing from the legacy of Joe is a HOMEGROWN WINNING TREE, which is all I care about!

With that said, I think this year we mesh and Joe's legacy comes back to life.
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Old 06-20-2007, 08:15 PM   #2
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Blache very nearly became head coach of the 49ers a few years ago, before they stunned everyone and hired Dennis Erickson.

I'd love to see, over the next two years, guys like Earnest Byner and Kirk Olivadotti take on a bigger role with the team coordinating the offense and defense and emerge as an in-house candidate to be head coach. That's something that's missing I think from Gibbs' legacy, a homegrown coaching tree.
Buges did when 7 games, I think, in Arizona, which is the equivilant of winning 3 rings anywhere else. Just to be fair.

Blache is great. We should hold on to him like grim death. Who else could have gotten more out of the guys he' had?
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Old 06-19-2007, 04:04 PM   #3
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I would also like to add that I have seen to many super star cordinators turn out to be bust aka: Norv. Cowher is a proven winner!
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Old 06-20-2007, 09:43 AM   #4
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I would also like to add that I have seen to many super star cordinators turn out to be bust aka: Norv. Cowher is a proven winner!

We'll get a better idea about Norv now that he actually has some talented players to work with -- something he NEVER had here.
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Old 06-19-2007, 04:06 PM   #5
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I would only want Cowher if Grimm and the rest of the most recent Steeler SB Champ staff came over. Because I am not convinced it was all Cowher that led to their last Super Bowl team.

The Steelers also do a great job in the draft, something we are just now getting better at.
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Old 06-19-2007, 04:09 PM   #6
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I would only want Cowher if Grimm and the rest of the most recent Steeler SB Champ staff came over. Because I am not convinced it was all Cowher that led to their last Super Bowl team. Steelers also do a great job in the draft, something we are just now getting better at.
That argument about the staff or the coach is as old as the chicken or the egg.
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Old 06-19-2007, 04:25 PM   #7
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I would only want Cowher if Grimm and the rest of the most recent Steeler SB Champ staff came over. Because I am not convinced it was all Cowher that led to their last Super Bowl team.

The Steelers also do a great job in the draft, something we are just now getting better at.
MAN.... COWHER IN DC... THAT WOULD BE AMAZING....

Remember, Cowher won year in and year out... his staff was always being pulled to be head coaches, his players were gone to free agency, and Bill RARELY missed the playoffs. Your crazy thinking he only did it because of Grimm.
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Old 06-19-2007, 04:32 PM   #8
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Cower's whole philosophy is so close to Schotenheimer's. Would Danny really want that again?
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Old 06-19-2007, 04:52 PM   #9
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Cower's whole philosophy is so close to Schotenheimer's. Would Danny really want that again?
Cowher was Marty's coordinator before becoming the Steeler head coach.

Danny wants big name coaches and winners.... Cowher is both.


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Old 06-19-2007, 06:43 PM   #10
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A guy like Cowher is going to be in very high demand in NY and Cleveland next year after they jettison their dud- head coaches. Given that demand and his leverage over the market, I suspect Cowher is going to want full control over football decision making, which leaves no room for Gibbs or Cerrato. He'll also likely want his own staff and to switch to a 3-4 defense which he used for his entire tenure in Pittsburgh. Do we really want that much turmoil and turn-over in the coaching staff AGAIN?

Personally, I think BC is a fantastic coach, I just don't want to have to sit through 2-3 rebuilding years and new systems, especially if we improve to a 10+ win team this year why blow it all up? I'm with the naysayers...stay inside the organization if Gibbs leaves and provide some kind of continuity if at all possible.
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Old 06-19-2007, 08:35 PM   #11
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A denial doesn't mean much, just means they don't want the issue to become public if it was true. I for one hope that they are at least thinking about it. I don't think our asst HC's are good candidate material.
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MAN.... COWHER IN DC... THAT WOULD BE AMAZING....

Remember, Cowher won year in and year out... his staff was always being pulled to be head coaches, his players were gone to free agency, and Bill RARELY missed the playoffs. Your crazy thinking he only did it because of Grimm.
I might be crazy, but you cant read. Read my post, I said the entire staff and GM.
You also need to check your facts, you are incorrect in saying he won year in and year out, they did not, including a long three year stretch where he did not make the playoffs.
1998...7-9
1999...6-10
2000...9-7
2003...6-10
2006...8-8

Add to the fact the Cowher's Steelers year in and year out were one of the most talented teams in the NFL and only have one Super Bowl to show for it.
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I might be crazy, but you cant read. Read my post, I said the entire staff and GM.
You also need to check your facts, you are incorrect in saying he won year in and year out, they did not, including a long three year stretch where he did not make the playoffs.
1998...7-9
1999...6-10
2000...9-7
2003...6-10
2006...8-8

Add to the fact the Cowher's Steelers year in and year out were one of the most talented teams in the NFL and only have one Super Bowl to show for it.
Unfortunately Cowher wasted a lot of time on Kordell Stewart. And despite that still won 7 or more games in I believe 12 out of his 14 years in Pitt. That's a lot more than we can say about our Skins over that span. Hell, Gibbs has 3 times more Super Bowls than Cowher, yet Cowher never lost 11 games in a season. Joe did just that last year. I think it all depends on how we do in '07. If we make the playoffs and win a game or two, I think Joe will come back for his final year. If we miss the playoffs and manage only 6 or 7 wins, I could see a switch.

And if by some chance Cowher did come to DC, there is no chance he would bring Russ Grimm, or Ken Wisenhunt with him. They aren't leaving Arizona after one season.
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Re: Cowher Talking to Skins about Job in '08?

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I might be crazy, but you cant read. Read my post, I said the entire staff and GM.
You also need to check your facts, you are incorrect in saying he won year in and year out, they did not, including a long three year stretch where he did not make the playoffs.
1998...7-9
1999...6-10
2000...9-7
2003...6-10
2006...8-8

Add to the fact the Cowher's Steelers year in and year out were one of the most talented teams in the NFL and only have one Super Bowl to show for it.

a long stretch of 3 years?? I would take a 3 year drought anytime. we have made the playoffs i think once since 99? that is 1 in 8 seasons. and lets see the 9-7 year would have gotten you in the playoffs in the NFC.
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So Matty, who do you hate more -- Spurrier or Norv?
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