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[MTK]

Lloyd looks like a different player, he's totally bulked up now. Kinda makes you go hmmmmmm.

[Mc2guy]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Lloyd looks like a different player, he's totally bulked up now. Kinda makes you go hmmmmmm.

Trying not to hijack the thread here, but do any of us believe players are "all natural?" Seem's pretty apparent that the testing is spotty and most players know when it's coming. HGH is impossible to detect through testing, you essentially have to catch the player taking it to bust them.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by Mc2guy

Trying not to hijack the thread here, but do any of us believe players are "all natural?" Seem's pretty apparent that the testing is spotty and most players know when it's coming. HGH is impossible to detect through testing, you essentially have to catch the player taking it to bust them.

The players that are in the NFL would be there whether they were taking something or not. Why is it that whenever someone looks a little different they are always accused of taking something???? Why is it as fans do we give a damn? Trust me on this becasue I am an avid weightlifter, if you work out hard and eat the right foods, you can change your body within a few months. Brandon Lloyd could easily put on 10-15 pounds by eating the right foods and training hard. I get soooooooo tired of people always going on assumptions. Even if Lloyd was taking something illegal, it's not like HGH or steriods (or even insulin which is the most powerful hormone in the body) will automatically make you bigger. You STILL have to train hard and eat right or these drugs will do NOTHING for you. There is no such thing as a miracle drug.

Instead of assuming something we have no proof of, how about just giving Lloyd some credit for getting himself in the best shape of his life. Let's give hime some credit just as quickly as we kill him when we acts like an a-hole.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Lloyd looks like a different player, he's totally bulked up now. Kinda makes you go hmmmmmm.

What do you mean by this?

[MTK]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

What do you mean by this?

Just makes you wonder is all.

In this day and age I think you have to question a player anytime he appears to have bulked up considerably in a short period of time. Have you seen him this year? He looks like a completely different person. I'm not saying he's definitely done anything illegal, but if you're not at least considering that possiblity I think that's pretty ignorant.

Here he is last year:




And here he is now:




Looks like he turned into David Boston overnight. Is it possible through legit hard work and nutrition? Sure. But we know it's possible through many other ways too.

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Just makes you wonder is all.

In this day and age I think you have to question a player anytime he appears to have bulked up considerably in a short period of time. Have you seen him this year? He looks like a completely different person. I'm not saying he's definitely done anything illegal, but if you're not at least considering that possiblity I think that's pretty ignorant.

Here he is last year:




And here he is now:




Looks like he turned into David Boston overnight. Is it possible through legit hard work and nutrition? Sure. But we know it's possible through many other ways too.

damn he is ripped he looks way different

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Just makes you wonder is all.

In this day and age I think you have to question a player anytime he appears to have bulked up considerably in a short period of time. Have you seen him this year? He looks like a completely different person. I'm not saying he's definitely done anything illegal, but if you're not at least considering that possiblity I think that's pretty ignorant.

Here he is last year:




And here he is now:




Looks like he turned into David Boston overnight. Is it possible through legit hard work and nutrition? Sure. But we know it's possible through many other ways too.

You don't have any dates of these pictures. One was taken in OTA's or mini camp so it's probably sometime in the spring. But the other one was sometime last year perhaps? Let's just assume Lloyd started his training in Jan or Feb. He could easily put on weight in a time frame of 12 weeks. Like I said it's not that hard to do if you go at it real hard. I know for sure is it's not possible if your sitting around and not training and eating right. Lloyd has put in the time and hard work to bulk up. If he's using something to help him so be it. I don't care and neither should the fans cause we can't prove anything. Are you or anyone else going to care if he keeps his mouth shut, catches 80 balls for 1200 yards and scores 10 td's? Nope.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

You don't have any dates of these pictures. One was taken in OTA's or mini camp so it's probably sometime in the spring. But the other one was sometime last year perhaps? Let's just assume Lloyd started his training in Jan or Feb. He could easily put on weight in a time frame of 12 weeks. Like I said it's not that hard to do if you go at it real hard. I know for sure is it's not possible if your sitting around and not training and eating right. Lloyd has put in the time and hard work to bulk up. If he's using something to help him so be it. I don't care and neither should the fans cause we can't prove anything. Are you or anyone else going to care if he keeps his mouth shut, catches 80 balls for 1200 yards and scores 10 td's? Nope.

The first pic is from camp last year, the second pic is from this offseason at the OTAs I believe.

Simple point is the guy is alot bigger. I don't care how he did it, I just said it made me wonder how he did it.

We will care of course he if got busted for it and was suspended for a few games.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

The first pic is from camp last year, the second pic is from this offseason at the OTAs I believe.

Simple point is the guy is alot bigger. I don't care how he did it, I just said it made me wonder how he did it.

We will care of course he if got busted for it and was suspended for a few games.

Personally I'm happy that he's a bit bigger and stronger. It shows that he gives a damn and perhaps he is thinking that he has something to prove. So good for him. I hope he breaks out this year and plays like he is capable of playing.

[JDALY27]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Just makes you wonder is all.

In this day and age I think you have to question a player anytime he appears to have bulked up considerably in a short period of time. Have you seen him this year? He looks like a completely different person. I'm not saying he's definitely done anything illegal, but if you're not at least considering that possiblity I think that's pretty ignorant.

Here he is last year:




And here he is now:




Looks like he turned into David Boston overnight. Is it possible through legit hard work and nutrition? Sure. But we know it's possible through many other ways too.

HOLY SHIT! He is definately on the juice. That is some instant MASS!

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by JDALY27

HOLY SHIT! He is definately on the juice. That is some instant MASS!

How about you educate yourself on health and fitness before you start throwing around assumptions you can't prove. Jeez!

[MTK]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

How about you educate yourself on health and fitness before you start throwing around assumptions you can't prove. Jeez!

The thing is, you can't prove that he did it legit. At this point it's anybody's guess how he put on 20 pounds of muscle.

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

The thing is, you can't prove that he did it legit. At this point it's anybody's guess how he put on 20 pounds of muscle.

grandma's down to earth home cooked good enough to eat by iyself "lemon fish sauce"

[dmek25]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

The thing is, you can't prove that he did it legit. At this point it's anybody's guess how he put on 20 pounds of muscle.

this is where you are wrong. the one thing that proves it is a drug test. cant anyone get the benefit of the doubt?

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

The thing is, you can't prove that he did it legit. At this point it's anybody's guess how he put on 20 pounds of muscle.

Well, the NFL tests for steriods. I have not heard anything lately about Lloyd getting back a positive test. And if anyone knows anything about HGH it does not put on muscle mass. That is not what it does. In most cases it burns off fat and you actually loose weight. It gives you a lean hard look. If Lloyd put on 20 pounds of muscle then he would have to be stacking some type of testosterone w/ deca, or dianabol. That stuff makes you hold water and gives you a bulky look. Kind of like how Bonds looked. Plus those types of steriods stay in your system for a long time. Over 30 days. So I doubt he is taking steriods.

Like I said he could put this weight on by training hard, eating right, drinking 3 protein shakes a day and maybe mix in some creatine.