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[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Lloyd looks like a different player, he's totally bulked up now. Kinda makes you go hmmmmmm.

What do you mean by this?

[MTK]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

What do you mean by this?

Just makes you wonder is all.

In this day and age I think you have to question a player anytime he appears to have bulked up considerably in a short period of time. Have you seen him this year? He looks like a completely different person. I'm not saying he's definitely done anything illegal, but if you're not at least considering that possiblity I think that's pretty ignorant.

Here he is last year:




And here he is now:




Looks like he turned into David Boston overnight. Is it possible through legit hard work and nutrition? Sure. But we know it's possible through many other ways too.

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Just makes you wonder is all.

In this day and age I think you have to question a player anytime he appears to have bulked up considerably in a short period of time. Have you seen him this year? He looks like a completely different person. I'm not saying he's definitely done anything illegal, but if you're not at least considering that possiblity I think that's pretty ignorant.

Here he is last year:




And here he is now:




Looks like he turned into David Boston overnight. Is it possible through legit hard work and nutrition? Sure. But we know it's possible through many other ways too.

damn he is ripped he looks way different

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Just makes you wonder is all.

In this day and age I think you have to question a player anytime he appears to have bulked up considerably in a short period of time. Have you seen him this year? He looks like a completely different person. I'm not saying he's definitely done anything illegal, but if you're not at least considering that possiblity I think that's pretty ignorant.

Here he is last year:




And here he is now:




Looks like he turned into David Boston overnight. Is it possible through legit hard work and nutrition? Sure. But we know it's possible through many other ways too.

You don't have any dates of these pictures. One was taken in OTA's or mini camp so it's probably sometime in the spring. But the other one was sometime last year perhaps? Let's just assume Lloyd started his training in Jan or Feb. He could easily put on weight in a time frame of 12 weeks. Like I said it's not that hard to do if you go at it real hard. I know for sure is it's not possible if your sitting around and not training and eating right. Lloyd has put in the time and hard work to bulk up. If he's using something to help him so be it. I don't care and neither should the fans cause we can't prove anything. Are you or anyone else going to care if he keeps his mouth shut, catches 80 balls for 1200 yards and scores 10 td's? Nope.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

You don't have any dates of these pictures. One was taken in OTA's or mini camp so it's probably sometime in the spring. But the other one was sometime last year perhaps? Let's just assume Lloyd started his training in Jan or Feb. He could easily put on weight in a time frame of 12 weeks. Like I said it's not that hard to do if you go at it real hard. I know for sure is it's not possible if your sitting around and not training and eating right. Lloyd has put in the time and hard work to bulk up. If he's using something to help him so be it. I don't care and neither should the fans cause we can't prove anything. Are you or anyone else going to care if he keeps his mouth shut, catches 80 balls for 1200 yards and scores 10 td's? Nope.

The first pic is from camp last year, the second pic is from this offseason at the OTAs I believe.

Simple point is the guy is alot bigger. I don't care how he did it, I just said it made me wonder how he did it.

We will care of course he if got busted for it and was suspended for a few games.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

The first pic is from camp last year, the second pic is from this offseason at the OTAs I believe.

Simple point is the guy is alot bigger. I don't care how he did it, I just said it made me wonder how he did it.

We will care of course he if got busted for it and was suspended for a few games.

Personally I'm happy that he's a bit bigger and stronger. It shows that he gives a damn and perhaps he is thinking that he has something to prove. So good for him. I hope he breaks out this year and plays like he is capable of playing.

[JDALY27]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Just makes you wonder is all.

In this day and age I think you have to question a player anytime he appears to have bulked up considerably in a short period of time. Have you seen him this year? He looks like a completely different person. I'm not saying he's definitely done anything illegal, but if you're not at least considering that possiblity I think that's pretty ignorant.

Here he is last year:




And here he is now:




Looks like he turned into David Boston overnight. Is it possible through legit hard work and nutrition? Sure. But we know it's possible through many other ways too.

HOLY SHIT! He is definately on the juice. That is some instant MASS!

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by JDALY27

HOLY SHIT! He is definately on the juice. That is some instant MASS!

How about you educate yourself on health and fitness before you start throwing around assumptions you can't prove. Jeez!

[MTK]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

How about you educate yourself on health and fitness before you start throwing around assumptions you can't prove. Jeez!

The thing is, you can't prove that he did it legit. At this point it's anybody's guess how he put on 20 pounds of muscle.

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

The thing is, you can't prove that he did it legit. At this point it's anybody's guess how he put on 20 pounds of muscle.

grandma's down to earth home cooked good enough to eat by iyself "lemon fish sauce"

[dmek25]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

The thing is, you can't prove that he did it legit. At this point it's anybody's guess how he put on 20 pounds of muscle.

this is where you are wrong. the one thing that proves it is a drug test. cant anyone get the benefit of the doubt?

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

The thing is, you can't prove that he did it legit. At this point it's anybody's guess how he put on 20 pounds of muscle.

Well, the NFL tests for steriods. I have not heard anything lately about Lloyd getting back a positive test. And if anyone knows anything about HGH it does not put on muscle mass. That is not what it does. In most cases it burns off fat and you actually loose weight. It gives you a lean hard look. If Lloyd put on 20 pounds of muscle then he would have to be stacking some type of testosterone w/ deca, or dianabol. That stuff makes you hold water and gives you a bulky look. Kind of like how Bonds looked. Plus those types of steriods stay in your system for a long time. Over 30 days. So I doubt he is taking steriods.

Like I said he could put this weight on by training hard, eating right, drinking 3 protein shakes a day and maybe mix in some creatine.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Well, the NFL tests for steriods. I have not heard anything lately about Lloyd getting back a positive test. And if anyone knows anything about HGH it does not put on muscle mass. That is not what it does. In most cases it burns off fat and you actually loose weight. It gives you a lean hard look. If Lloyd put on 20 pounds of muscle then he would have to be stacking some type of testosterone w/ deca, or dianabol. That stuff makes you hold water and gives you a bulky look. Kind of like how Bonds looked. Plus those types of steriods stay in your system for a long time. Over 30 days. So I doubt he is taking steriods.

Like I said he could put this weight on by training hard, eating right, drinking 3 protein shakes a day and maybe mix in some creatine.

Are you saying there's no way around the testing the NFL does? C'mon now, just because they test doesn't mean guys aren't juicing.

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Well, the NFL tests for steriods. I have not heard anything lately about Lloyd getting back a positive test. And if anyone knows anything about HGH it does not put on muscle mass. That is not what it does. In most cases it burns off fat and you actually loose weight. It gives you a lean hard look. If Lloyd put on 20 pounds of muscle then he would have to be stacking some type of testosterone w/ deca, or dianabol. That stuff makes you hold water and gives you a bulky look. Kind of like how Bonds looked. Plus those types of steriods stay in your system for a long time. Over 30 days. So I doubt he is taking steriods.

Like I said he could put this weight on by training hard, eating right, drinking 3 protein shakes a day and maybe mix in some creatine.

It would not surprise me if the coaches did not give Lloyd some options at the end of last year and one was to get with the program. That and all criticism he got last year for his poor play may be what he needed to push himself harder. He did just OK with the 49er's and pretty much failed here last year and if we let him go he would find it a tough to find a starting position with another team. We will see but it seems he is starting this season on a positive note.

[JDALY27]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

How about you educate yourself on health and fitness before you start throwing around assumptions you can't prove. Jeez!

Ummmm, his arms more than doubled in size over 1 offseason. He used Steroids 100%. Not really going out on a limb with that one......