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Old 06-22-2007, 01:13 PM   #1
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true, would be nice if Montgomery beat griff out to start w/griff coming in on passing downs. I read that Montgomery runs a 5.24 40, which sounds like he's not likely to be a pass rusher as much as a run stuffer. 40 times only count for so much though, he might have a great burst now that he's toning up. It's a position where quickness is more important than speed anyway.
40 times mean diddily squat for a DT. The 40 time measures straight away speed. The DT needs explosion and burst, as you alluded to. It's more about his lower body strength, how quickly can he get off the line.

If you were going to measure something, take a look at how much weight he can squat, and how much he can "clean." That's when you hold the barbell in both hands down at about your knees and jerk it up to the point where you're holding at your shoulders in preparation to lift it over your head.
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Old 06-22-2007, 02:27 PM   #2
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40 times mean diddily squat for a DT. The 40 time measures straight away speed. The DT needs explosion and burst, as you alluded to. It's more about his lower body strength, how quickly can he get off the line.

If you were going to measure something, take a look at how much weight he can squat, and how much he can "clean." That's when you hold the barbell in both hands down at about your knees and jerk it up to the point where you're holding at your shoulders in preparation to lift it over your head.
right, quickness as I mentioned & strength is an assumed must have in any lineman. I don't put TOO much emphasis on 40 times, but I think if you look at the game's best pass rushers, dt, de or lb's, I bet that on avg. they have faster 40 times.
Doesn't matter to me though, I think if he contributes as a run stuffer & gets some pt, that's a bonus. If he's an every down dt, that's a draft steal. I hope that his offseason has been like Loyd's, & his training will show on game days. Expect to see a lot of snaps in preseason for sure.
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Old 06-22-2007, 07:18 PM   #3
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It's always been my position that DE was a greater need than DT. We had this discussion ad nauseum before the draft. With Griffin, Golston, Montgomery and Salavea, we should get a decent years worth of play. If they are all healthy, it would be a bonus.

By contrast, we will be in trouble at DE if Carter doesn't continue his late season play from last year. Everybody else is average and old. I still think they should at least think about playing Wynn on first down. Of course, with an upgrade out outside LB over Holdman, Carter may be adequate against the run.

Also, they intend, I think to funnel the offensive pressure away from the middle (LBers) to the outside (CBs) by playing more Cover 1 with Landry up near the line of scrimmage. This may allow Carter's athleticism to display itself as he will not have to be as disciplined in his approach. He will have an extra defender on early downs.
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Old 06-23-2007, 11:49 AM   #4
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all good points about AM. Like Matty said, nobody's voting him to the pro bowl already. If this story is an accurate depiction of his commitment then maybe we can at least count on him to get some snaps in the rotation. GW likes to sub based on what 'package' it is, so it seems there is ample opportunity for the guy to get some time even if he's not a starter.

I think the thing to get excited about in this story is that for a change, one of our late draft picks may be shaping up & becoming a decent, if not good, pro. It was good news last year that Golston & Montgomery made the roster & got some time. If both improve, we've got to be happy w/that. I would love to see these guys become Butz/Daryl Grant, those two guys anchored the d-line for years. While unspectacular, they were solid.
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Old 06-22-2007, 02:28 PM   #5
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i have read the same thing about Montgomery. lacks intensity at times. and right now doesn't understand what it takes to be a good pro, the film work and the aggressive practicing
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Old 06-22-2007, 02:55 PM   #6
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I hope everyone doesn't get their hopes up that Montgomery is the next Stroud because this is complete crap. This story is a result of a newspaper struggling for stores in the lol before training camp. This guy has done nothing so far to lead you to believe he will have any kind of significant contribution this year.
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Old 06-22-2007, 02:59 PM   #7
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I hope everyone doesn't get their hopes up that Montgomery is the next Stroud because this is complete crap. This story is a result of a newspaper struggling for stores in the lol before training camp. This guy has done nothing so far to lead you to believe he will have any kind of significant contribution this year.
calm down cowboy, I don't think anybody is putting him in the Pro Bowl, but it is encouraging to hear that he seems to understand what he needs to do to improve.
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During the draft preparation and free agent acquisition process, I was strongly in favor of upgrading our DT position because I saw how badly the line performed against the run last year. But reading the Washington Post today, I'm surprised to hear of how highly regarded Anthony Montgomery is in terms of raw talent. Reynaldo Wynn compares him to Marcus Stroud in terms of size, build, strength, and quickness.

Of all the things we talk about, needing players to step up and whatnot, of course JC is the main one. And it'd be real good to see Rocky fill in that LB spot admirably, and see Landry make an impact in the secondary, and see Springs stay healthy. But man, stopping the run is still our primary need on defense IMO. And if we get Montgomery to tap into his raw talent? Lights out fellas, we're going to the playoffs.

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Old 06-22-2007, 06:00 PM   #9
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I'm glad to hear Montgomery is taking his job seriously and finally giving it a full effort. To have the opportunity to play in the NFL and still have the reputation of being a poor worker, lacking intensity and desire, and taking plays off is a shame. He did it in college and it carried over to his rookie year. Most males would love the opportunity and talent he has been blessed with. I'm not going to pat the guy on the back for doing what is expected of every player privileged enough to pay in the NFL- giving 100%. Lose fat, put on muscle, study the plays, be intense, show up for offseason workouts- welcome to football. It's a game, but it's also a job- and a lucrative one at that. Hopefully (and I wont be sold until I see full effort CONSISTENTLY) he'll shed the underachiever label sooner rather than later. We need him this year big time.
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Old 06-23-2007, 04:42 AM   #10
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He looks like he's all baby fat, Straud is all muscle, they may be similar in size, but I don't see the comparison as far as defintion, or power.
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Old 06-24-2007, 04:04 PM   #11
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I'm glad to hear Montgomery is taking his job seriously and finally giving it a full effort. To have the opportunity to play in the NFL and still have the reputation of being a poor worker, lacking intensity and desire, and taking plays off is a shame. He did it in college and it carried over to his rookie year. Most males would love the opportunity and talent he has been blessed with. I'm not going to pat the guy on the back for doing what is expected of every player privileged enough to pay in the NFL- giving 100%. Lose fat, put on muscle, study the plays, be intense, show up for offseason workouts- welcome to football. It's a game, but it's also a job- and a lucrative one at that. Hopefully (and I wont be sold until I see full effort CONSISTENTLY) he'll shed the underachiever label sooner rather than later. We need him this year big time.
This guy sounds so much like Alan Branch coming out of college but, without a lot talent around him. To those who doubt what could become of Montgomery should consider Blache's track record. our OL and DL coaches have proven to make names for underachievers.
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Old 06-24-2007, 05:18 PM   #12
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This guy sounds so much like Alan Branch coming out of college but, without a lot talent around him. To those who doubt what could become of Montgomery should consider Blache's track record. our OL and DL coaches have proven to make names for underachievers.
Hey may have tons of potential, but like I said, I'll believe it when I see it. Potential never got anyone anywhere. I am glad to hear that he has been working hard. But it's a lot easier to work hard in the offseason than it is to keep up that ethic and intensity through training camp, pre and regular season.
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It would be great if Golston, and Montgomery end up being our DT duo for years to come, but I think it might take a year or two for Montgomery to replace Griff in the starting lineup.
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Re: Anthony Montgomery

Montgomery is also " RAW " . He gained ,,,, 100lbs his first two years at U Minn . He was a QB in high school . If he works hard and has / gets a killer instinct , he could be a real force , maybe as early as this year . I still think having Griff at 99/ 100 % along with A. Carter improving on last year are keys to a great front 4 .
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i think AM is going to be a decent player at best
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