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Old 07-03-2007, 10:54 AM   #1
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I think you have it backwards. If anything we are the most valuable in terms of worth and assets, but the yankees are probably more profitable in terms of merchandise sales, tickets (remember there are a LOT more baseball games than football ones), etc. I would like to see some numbers on profitability. But we are without a doubt the most valuable sports franchise in all of the world, at least according the latest Forbes magazine numbers.

Redskins - $1.423 bill according to Aug 2006 numbers which i am sure has increased since those numbers came out
ESPN - Forbes: Five NFL franchises worth over $1 billion - NFL

Manchester U (2007) - $1.453 bill
#1 Manchester United - Forbes.com

New York Yankees (2007) - $1.2 bill #1 New York Yankees - Forbes.com

Real Madrid (2007) - $1.036 bill
#2 Real Madrid - Forbes.com
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Old 07-03-2007, 11:31 AM   #2
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I think you have it backwards. If anything we are the most valuable in terms of worth and assets, but the yankees are probably more profitable in terms of merchandise sales, tickets (remember there are a LOT more baseball games than football ones), etc. I would like to see some numbers on profitability. But we are without a doubt the most valuable sports franchise in all of the world, at least according the latest Forbes magazine numbers.

Redskins - $1.423 bill according to Aug 2006 numbers which i am sure has increased since those numbers came out
ESPN - Forbes: Five NFL franchises worth over $1 billion - NFL

Manchester U (2007) - $1.453 bill

#1 Manchester United - Forbes.com

New York Yankees (2007) - $1.2 bill #1 New York Yankees - Forbes.com

Real Madrid (2007) - $1.036 bill
#2 Real Madrid - Forbes.com
Assuming these numbers we are the 2nd most right behind Man U. I think thaty is just the way these numbers are lining up though because the Skins one is from 06.
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Old 07-03-2007, 04:02 PM   #3
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Can you imagine where that value would go if we could actually win a few playoff games and *gasp* a championship.

Synder did a good job of taking over a very valuable franchise and making it more valuable, but I don't consider it any stroke of genius. The primary reasons for the Redskins profitability is a large and mostly affluent regional fan base (ticket prices are "affordable" by regional standards), and an enormous and wholly owned stadium in which to pack all those affluent ticket purchasers. Neither of those creations are due to Synder...both came before he bought the team.

Where he has excelled is in the ancillary marketing and sales, e.g., owned media whereby advertizing revenue goes to the team, shrewd local TV distribution contracts, and non-competitive event revenue (beach blitz, etc)...things that all owners could do in theory but don't. Frankly what Snyder has done is pretty simple in terms of revenue extraction, and it doesn't take a genius to market a product on which you have a monopoly.

I'll give credit to Synder the NFL team owner when he wins a ring, until then he's just a good marketer with a confidence problem using his cash to overcome his management shortcomings. Personally, I'd rank him closer to 11 or 12.
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Old 07-03-2007, 04:26 PM   #4
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The piece makes it sound like he went after Saunders in spite of Gibbs. Gibbs was the one who wanted Saunders. The dunderheads who cover the league seem oblivious to the fact that all the football decisions in the last three years have been made by Gibbs. But then they couldn't portray Snyder as the control freak and then where would they be? They rely on on those stock portraits of various figures so they don't have to actually find out what goes on. ESPN is exactly the same. This is more attrocious writing from SI. Every time I click on one of their links, it gets worse.
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Old 07-03-2007, 11:57 PM   #5
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5 is too high. it's about winning, and no matter how expensive it is, a turd is a turd is a turd. let's win something.
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Old 07-04-2007, 10:42 AM   #6
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5 is too high. it's about winning, and no matter how expensive it is, a turd is a turd is a turd. let's win something.


being a good owner is more then just winning. mr. snyder is getting better at giving control to the people who should have it (gibbs). when snyder first became owner of the skins he was already a better owner then some of the other ones, even though he made some horrible player aquisitions. snyder was just trying to win, you can't blame him for that, he just went about it the wrong way.


he brought gibbs out of retirement and he's letting gibbs run the show, in the meantime he is bringing in any and every player/coach that gibbs wants. how is that being a turd ?
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5 is too high. it's about winning, and no matter how expensive it is, a turd is a turd is a turd. let's win something.
You're right...the way Danny whacked Portis' shoulder, took Moss out, whacked the knees of every member of our secondary and LBs and put those weights in Brunell's pads so he couldn't run anymore...what a horrible owner. Injuring our top players doesn't warrant a #5 ranking for an owner.

Let's not forget how Snyder soaked Lloyd's gloves in vegetable oil before every game too.
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Old 07-15-2007, 06:14 PM   #8
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5 is too high. it's about winning, and no matter how expensive it is, a turd is a turd is a turd. let's win something.
No, it's not.
For US it's about winning, for him it's about profit and team likability. Both are HUGE.
If you can produce a team that earns 1.6 billion and wins 5 games a year you're doing something right.
What would you rather have in your business. A team that wins 13 games and produces 800 mil, or a team that wins 5 games and produces 1.6 Bil?

Of course, if we won 5 games a year forever, there would be fewer fans to spend money...then again, we haven't done squat in a decade and a half and we still have the biggest and best following.
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Synder number 5 BS to me.
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Old 07-04-2007, 11:10 AM   #10
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I agree with the article when it says that eventually Snyder will get it right. he is young and he has a long time left with the skins. There will be more mistakes and failed strategies but eventually we will win another superbowl. I would rather have an owner who is actively trying to win than one who does nothing (a la Abe Pollin and the Wizards) and pisses away talented youth. The window of opportunity of winning in the NFL is short and u need someone who is willing to jump on the opportunity when it arises, which snyder definitely tries to do.
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Old 07-05-2007, 12:05 PM   #11
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I wonder when someone is going to point out the error in the thread title
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Synder? Synder what? Synderblock?

Of course if you are being charitible, you could make the case that Quake already did:

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Old 07-05-2007, 12:08 PM   #13
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Synder? Synder what? Synderblock?
Yes! Also, there's an apostrophe missing but that's not a big deal

Will now correct the title
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Yes! Also, there's an apostrophe missing but that's not a big deal

Will now correct the title

you are really bored arent you.
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