Joyner: Reed, Taylor Overrated from Coverage Standpoint

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Seriously though, I'm sure you're well aware that there's a lot more to evaluate a player and his value that what a stat sheet says

Of course. Thats the fun part!

Statistics are my starting point. Once I understand where the process begins, I can develop all sorts of crazy observations that may or may not be reality.

I just don't fly in the face of the evidence, I try to build on it. I realize I can come off condecening at times, but its frusterating to sit here and see two parties bicker over the irrelivant/simple issues. I by far prefer the complex football-related issues, but I feel that the mainstream fan will never even discover these issues because the current accepted method of player evaluation is so poor, and the sports media is more than okay with that.

For example, I'd love to debate whether or not we can expect ST to rebound based on the historical expectation of the position and his college and professional merits. Unfortuanately, theres a handful of people who don't even yet realize how poor his play was last year even after linking the article. Makes it hard to move on to the fun points when I have to argue the for granted ones.

Ah, whatever. All in a days work.

End rant.

[GoSkins!]

I believe that Taylor made the Pro Bowl last year partly due to his play in the last 5 games the previous year. Many times, because of when the voting is one, it works out that a player gets rewarded a year late.

GTripp, I know that you are a big stats guy, but you do realize that stats can be manipulated, massaged, and misinterpreted, right? FYI, I'm an engineer and analyze ridiculous amounts of numeric data for a living and I can honestly say that the stats on Sean Taylor tell less about his worth than the things they don't collect stats on. An example could be how opposing offensive coordinaters have to limit thier game plan when he is on the field... which might make it easier of Fletcher to figure out the offensive formation, and in turn make the blitzing better, which will help pass coverage. It is kinda like when Dale Lindsey was keeping Arrington off the field based on him being out of position "x" number of times. Then when he gets to play, the running game solidifies and we win 5 straight to get to the playoffs.

I guess I'm just saying that stats are a great tool, and GTripp, you are really one of the best at using them and making sense of them, but be careful you don't fall into that rut I see some guys fall in where they can't see the forrest for the trees. Taylor's numbers suffered last year because he was had to try to cover for the LB's and CB's around him. The points are not irrelevent or simple.

[Sheriff Gonna Getcha]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

I realize I can come off condecening at times, but its frusterating to sit here and see two parties bicker over the irrelivant/simple issues.

Proper spelling is overrated. How's that for condescension? J/K.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by Sheriff Gonna Getcha

Proper spelling is overrated. How's that for condescension? J/K.

Whoa. Three spelling errors in a single post.

I've throughly been skooled.

[Sheriff Gonna Getcha]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Whoa. Three spelling errors in a single post.

I've throughly been skooled.

Ha! I love to see someone who can take a good jab.

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by Sheriff Gonna Getcha

Proper spelling is overrated. How's that for condescension? J/K.

ZING!!!

Good to see ya Sheriff