Michael Moore's Latest Target: Your HMO

[djnemo65]

Originally Posted by jsarno

Difference there is the government can't stop free enterprise. The government will never stop businesses from making a profit unless it's a monopoly, but since all the oil companies are together, that won't happen. You're asking the government to go against what the USA stands for. Not going to happen.
We don't like the fact that the oil companies are showing record profits anymore than you do, but there is only one way to stop it! Stop it at the source. The more of us that stop using the black crack, the easier it would be to create alternative fuels. Everyone bitches about the gas prices, well what are you doing to fix it? Not only are they showing record profit, but we're showing record demand for the stuff. It's supply and demand. I for one use my motorcycle more, I'm trying my part.

How is making a profitable film not free-enterprise? That's why I never understood the complaint that Michael Moore makes money off his films. If free enterprise is the most perfect system and a film maker is succesful within that system, what's the problem?

[jsarno]

Originally Posted by djnemo65

How is making a profitable film not free-enterprise? That's why I never understood the complaint that Michael Moore makes money off his films. If free enterprise is the most perfect system and a film maker is succesful within that system, what's the problem?

But what you're missing is we're all bitching about the gas companies. Moore has every right to make those films, I'm not suggesting that he doesn't have the right, but when he makes those statements, he should back them up with his participation. That's like someone standing up and saying to give money to save the planet, but doesn't do it himself. In other words, hypocracy.

[djnemo65]

Originally Posted by jsarno

But what you're missing is we're all bitching about the gas companies. Moore has every right to make those films, I'm not suggesting that he doesn't have the right, but when he makes those statements, he should back them up with his participation. That's like someone standing up and saying to give money to save the planet, but doesn't do it himself. In other words, hypocracy.

I'm not following you here....

[jsarno]

Originally Posted by djnemo65

I'm not following you here....

How did I lose you?
Basically, we bitch just as much at moore as you do at the oil companies...the difference is we bitch about the oil companies and you won't bitch at Moore.
also, for some reason you keep associating the oil companies profit with the government when it's OUR fault for requiring such a large amount, and more and more each year.

[djnemo65]

Originally Posted by jsarno

How did I lose you?
Basically, we bitch just as much at moore as you do at the oil companies...the difference is we bitch about the oil companies and you won't bitch at Moore.
also, for some reason you keep associating the oil companies profit with the government when it's OUR fault for requiring such a large amount, and more and more each year.

First of all, when did I ever mention the oil companies? My point, quite simple I thought, was that it doesn't make sense to criticize Moore for making a profit. If you wish to launch a substantive criticism against his oeuvre feel free to do so - there are legitimate criticisms to be made - but leave his money out of it.

The debate about oil companies is one I am going to respectfully decline to be drawn into at this point, given that my lunch is about to be served.

[jsarno]

Originally Posted by djnemo65

First of all, when did I ever mention the oil companies? My point, quite simple I thought, was that it doesn't make sense to criticize Moore for making a profit. If you wish to launch a substantive criticism against his oeuvre feel free to do so - there are legitimate criticisms to be made - but leave his money out of it.

The debate about oil companies is one I am going to respectfully decline to be drawn into at this point, given that my lunch is about to be served.

Well, it came from this quote of yours:

i love it how republicans spew the hatred towards Moore for making movies strictly for the money. but yet the oil companies gouge us everyday, and its their right to maintain as big of a profit as they seem.

Moore is a piece of shit hypocrit! If he did it with honest intentions, then most of us wouldn't have a problem with him.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by jsarno

Well, it came from this quote of yours:

Moore is a piece of shit hypocrit! If he did it with honest intentions, then most of us wouldn't have a problem with him.

I agree with you on Moore (for the most part), but get your facts straight with the quotes.

You quoted dmek25, not djnemo

http://www.redskinswarpath.com/325850-post118.html

[dmek25]

Originally Posted by jsarno

Moore is a piece of shit hypocrit! If he did it with honest intentions, then most of us wouldn't have a problem with him.

and how the hell do you know what his intentions are? just because someone makes money when doing something, doesnt mean they arent trying to do the right thing