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[saden1]

Originally Posted by jsarno

Umm, they live 10+ feet BELOW SEA LEVEL! People all over the country were warning about this disaster years before it happened, they had 4 full days to evacuate, at worse, 2 full days. How much compassion should someone have when they aren't willing to get out of the way? Do you stand in the middle of the highway and then blame the vehicle that runs you over? Come on man...it's common sense.

I just really don't understand people that are so willing to defend idiots. (I understand that old bed ridden people perished and I do feel for that, they couldn't do anything about it) Other than that, if you have 2 feet would you not try to get out of the way of DEATH?
The fact that you are arguing that people should take their lives into their own hands by showing down a freakin hurricane is amazing. They knew the risk, they CHOSE to stay and face death.

You really speak of things you know nothing off and I'm gonna call you on it. You're completely making a blanket statement about people whose circumstance you know nothing of.

You make everything sound so easy and effortless. Nothing in this world is that easy. Let me ask you, why are you on your second/third job in a few months as someone pointed out in the past? I mean, shouldn't you be a high powered executive by now rather than hopping from job to job?

There are ton of people out there that work hard and they don't go anywhere. It really pisses me off when people don't realize how fortunate they are. Realize your fortune and don't confuse the misfortune of others for stupidity.

[jsarno]

Originally Posted by saden1

You really speak of things you know nothing off and I'm gonna call you on it. You're completely making a blanket statement about people whose circumstance you know nothing of.

You make everything sound so easy and effortless. Nothing in this world is that easy. Let me ask you, why are you on your second/third job in a few months as someone pointed out in the past? I mean, shouldn't you be a high powered executive by now rather than hopping from job to job?

There are ton of people out there that work hard and they don't go anywhere. It really pisses me off when people don't realize how fortunate they are. Realize your fortune and don't confuse the misfortune of others for stupidity.

I'm always looking for something that will better me and my situation. Due to the fact that there is no opportunity here, I am actively seeking employment where there is opportunity. While I may have jumped here lately, I had 3 jobs in the past 10 years. I refuse to allow society to dictate what I should or should not do, and EVERYTHING I have, I have earned. I am not fortunate out of luck, I am fortunate out of hard work and dedication. Please do not confuse hardwork with luck. I am successful because of me. I will continue to be successful because of me. Does that sound arrogant...sure. I prefer to call it confidence cause I know everything I do has a consequence...sometimes it's positive and sometimes it's negative, but either way, I am the master of my own destiny.
My father never even graduated high school. Up until a year ago I was the only one in my family with a degree, and I am the only one with a Masters. Is it a coincidence that I make more money than anyone in my family? NOPE. I dedicated myself, and debted myself for that degree, my family was too shortsighted to see what would benefit them. I moved away from my family in Mass and came out to NM because I felt there was more opportunity here, and it's worked for me to this point. Why would I leave everything I know for a place I never stepped foot in? Because you can't keep your life on cruise control. You can do anything you want to do if you put your mind to it and don't become discouraged by obsticles...I'm living proof.
If you guys had any idea who my family is, you'd be shocked at how I turned out to be who I am. You can either follow the norm and bitch and moan about "misfortune", or you can take the bull by the horns and create your own life. Yes, it IS that easy. If you don't think so, you've already failed yourself.
Saden...there is more to life than just "working hard", you need to work smart too. Someone can bust their ass as a janitor for 30 years and retire making $12 an hour, did he work hard...absolutely...did he work smart...hell no. What's the difference between that guy and a successful guy? The successful guy knew there was something better out there for him and he worked hard to achieve it.
I love this quote:
"Whether you think you can or you can't, you're right."
Plain and simple...I can!

[SmootSmack]

Quoting Stewie Griffin I see (4:00 mark)

[jsarno]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Quoting Stewie Griffin I see (4:00 mark)

Actually it's a Henry Ford quote. Stewie stole it from him.
"Whether You Think You Can or Can't, You're Right"--Henry Ford | Strategic Business Lawyer

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by jsarno

Actually it's a Henry Ford quote. Stewie stole it from him.
"Whether You Think You Can or Can't, You're Right"--Henry Ford | Strategic Business Lawyer

I already knew that. Thanks though

[saden1]

Originally Posted by jsarno

I'm always looking for something that will better me and my situation. Due to the fact that there is no opportunity here, I am actively seeking employment where there is opportunity. While I may have jumped here lately, I had 3 jobs in the past 10 years. I refuse to allow society to dictate what I should or should not do, and EVERYTHING I have, I have earned. I am not fortunate out of luck, I am fortunate out of hard work and dedication. Please do not confuse hardwork with luck. I am successful because of me. I will continue to be successful because of me. Does that sound arrogant...sure. I prefer to call it confidence cause I know everything I do has a consequence...sometimes it's positive and sometimes it's negative, but either way, I am the master of my own destiny.
My father never even graduated high school. Up until a year ago I was the only one in my family with a degree, and I am the only one with a Masters. Is it a coincidence that I make more money than anyone in my family? NOPE. I dedicated myself, and debted myself for that degree, my family was too shortsighted to see what would benefit them. I moved away from my family in Mass and came out to NM because I felt there was more opportunity here, and it's worked for me to this point. Why would I leave everything I know for a place I never stepped foot in? Because you can't keep your life on cruise control. You can do anything you want to do if you put your mind to it and don't become discouraged by obsticles...I'm living proof.
If you guys had any idea who my family is, you'd be shocked at how I turned out to be who I am. You can either follow the norm and bitch and moan about "misfortune", or you can take the bull by the horns and create your own life. Yes, it IS that easy. If you don't think so, you've already failed yourself.
Saden...there is more to life than just "working hard", you need to work smart too. Someone can bust their ass as a janitor for 30 years and retire making $12 an hour, did he work hard...absolutely...did he work smart...hell no. What's the difference between that guy and a successful guy? The successful guy knew there was something better out there for him and he worked hard to achieve it.
I love this quote:
"Whether you think you can or you can't, you're right."
Plain and simple...I can!

I don't mean fortune as in luck but rather circumstance, opportunity, and environment. One of your assumptions is that everyone has a chance to succeed. I'm glad you got where you are by working hard but I bet you if you think for a moment you can name 3 crucial events or opportunities in your life you can attribute your success to. To say you're where you are today ALL because of your hard work would be disingenuous.

I mean, compare yourself to people from Sudan. How do you think your life stacks up against theirs? Are they poor because they didn't work hard or because they aren't smart? The world isn't black and white like you make it out to be. It's many shades of gray filled with spots and squiggly lines.

[jsarno]

Originally Posted by saden1

I don't mean fortune as in luck but rather circumstance, opportunity, and environment. One of your assumptions is that everyone has a chance to succeed. I'm glad you got where you are by working hard but I bet you if you think for a moment you can name 3 crucial events or opportunities in your life you can attribute your success to. To say you're where you are today ALL because of your hard work would be disingenuous.

I mean, compare yourself to people from Sudan. How do you think your life stacks up against theirs? Are they poor because they didn't work hard or because they aren't smart? The world isn't black and white like you make it out to be. It's many shades of gray filled with spots and squiggly lines.

I'm not trying to compare apples to oranges...so I apologize for not being specific, although I did already mention I am referring to American's only. I have never lived in another country, so I do not know what it takes to be successful there. However, even in those countries, if you follow my basic principles, you can be more successful than the person next you even in those countries. You are not doomed by circumstance.

[jsarno]

Originally Posted by saden1

I'm glad you got where you are by working hard but I bet you if you think for a moment you can name 3 crucial events or opportunities in your life you can attribute your success to.

While I can easily name 3 "forks in the road", I can name more than that too. However, each time I didn't always know it was a fork. I relied on my wisdom and sometimes prayer, and intelligence, and knowledge of the bible to guide me to the right side of the fork. Also, if you make the wrong decision, then go back. It's VERY rare that a decision you make is soooo bad that it ruins your life and you can't go back. There are some like murder etc, but those are so obviously bad that you're not very smart. I have made just as many good choices as bad choices, but the key is, I rectify the poor choices. I don't dwell on them, I change them. (through hard work and dedication)
On the flip side, you can give me ANY scenario (as long as I can ask questions about it) and I can tell you where they failed along the way. I know that sounds arrogant, but we have become a country so focused on the negatives, you then use your negativity to make decisions. It's like when you jump in the water and you see a shark, the first thing you will do is tense up and not move. That's what people do when they make a poor decision in life. They freeze, then they never get mobile again cause they are too worried about making another choice. (thus negativity takes over)
Every person that is homeless, or in the gutter made some poor choices that led to that. Every person in jail made poor choices that led to that as well. Every person that is dirt poor made very poor decisions to be that way.
Now I'm not saying that an unfortunate event couldn't happen out of the blue...they happen. But how do you handle it?
Do I feel bad when a tornado takes out a trailer park in Oklahoma? Not really. They knew the risks of living there...it was their choice. If you noticed when someone asked me why I wanted to move to Denver, I made many reasons, but one of them is "no natural disasters happen there". Those that make conscious decisions to reduce risk and maximize opportunity become successful. Again I feel compelled to say that bad things can and do happen. A tornado could hit Aurora,CO right now...would I feel for the people there...YES. That would be an anomoly. Do I feel bad for the people that perished in the 9/11 attacks...absolutely. They went to work one day trying to get ahead in life, or survive in life and they had no way of knowing that crazy people would fly into them and kill them. Had they known and stayed, then they would be stupid. You are who you are and you're at where you're at in life 100% because of your choices. Sorry I believe that whole heartedly.
I do recommend you read or watch "the secret". They actually say the same thing. I had already believed it before I read it, but it solidified my belief. Stop focusing on what has happened to you, and start focusing on what you want to happen to you.