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Old 07-11-2007, 01:45 PM   #1
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Re: Michael Moore's Latest Target: Your HMO

If someone asks me for a buck and I have it, I'll give it to them. I honestly don't care what they do with it, I'm not trying to judge them, correct them or punish them.

Just curious, are you in favor of any sort of charity? Or does it have to come with a laundry list of exceptions?
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Old 07-11-2007, 01:48 PM   #2
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If someone asks me for a buck and I have it, I'll give it to them. I honestly don't care what they do with it, I'm not trying to judge them, correct them or punish them.
I've always been a spare change giver outer type of guy. Hmm...sounds like a cool Bud Light Real Men of Empathy commercial.
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Old 07-11-2007, 01:51 PM   #3
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If someone asks me for a buck and I have it, I'll give it to them. I honestly don't care what they do with it, I'm not trying to judge them, correct them or punish them.
They didn't ask for a buck...they asked work for food, my wife offered, he said F.U. Open shut case here matty.

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Just curious, are you in favor of any sort of charity? Or does it have to come with a laundry list of exceptions?
I have already explained the charities I give to, in fact I would wager I give more than 95% of the people here. (not that I'm judging anyone, it comes from the heart and I completely understand if people won't or even can't give to charities) I refuse to give to "charities" of people that won't help themselves.
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Old 07-11-2007, 01:59 PM   #4
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If someone asks me for a buck and I have it, I'll give it to them. I honestly don't care what they do with it, I'm not trying to judge them, correct them or punish them.
If you saw a homeless guy with a broken arm would you offer him a job cutting your grass? I doubt it. Becuase while that may seem like help it really isn't because he can't do the job and would get nothing from it. I think what jsarno is trying to say is that sometimes what you deem as "help" isn't really helping. Human nature dictates that many people become dependent very easily. If giving them that dollar only further entrenches that sense of dependence then is it really helping?

The old saying "Give a man a fish, feed him for a day. Teach a man to fish, feed him for a lifetime." comes to mind. Maybe instead of giving them a dollar we should focus on getting them past the rough times. That is why I want to see people who are willing to put work into fixing their lives. They gotta pull as much weight as they can. I'll help anybody who can't help themselves or those who can and try. Helping those who can and don't try isn't helping. Sometimes it is actually even hurting them more.
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Old 07-11-2007, 02:05 PM   #5
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If you saw a homeless guy with a broken arm would you offer him a job cutting your grass? I doubt it. Becuase while that may seem like help it really isn't because he can't do the job and would get nothing from it. I think what jsarno is trying to say is that sometimes what you deem as "help" isn't really helping. Human nature dictates that many people become dependent very easily. If giving them that dollar only further entrenches that sense of dependence then is it really helping?

The old saying "Give a man a fish, feed him for a day. Teach a man to fish, feed him for a lifetime." comes to mind. Maybe instead of giving them a dollar we should focus on getting them past the rough times. That is why I want to see people who are willing to put work into fixing their lives. They gotta pull as much weight as they can. I'll help anybody who can't help themselves or those who can and try. Helping those who can and don't try isn't helping. Sometimes it is actually even hurting them more.
Wow, you get my point exactly. I tried to think of that saying too, but for some reason kept coming to: you can lead a horse to water but can't make him drink." lol.
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