Portis vs. Betts

[KLHJ2]

Originally Posted by offiss

He had 5, losing 4 of them.

NFL.com - Clinton Portis

I remember that 2 of them were BS calls. IMO.

[offiss]

Originally Posted by angryssg

I remember that 2 of them were BS calls. IMO.

I do beleive one of them he practically handed to the defensive lineman and he ran for a TD, eventually costing us the game.

[RobH4413]

One thing that I love about Betts is his hands. IMO he's the perfect 2nd and short running back.

We run the PA, look deep, and if it's not there, we dump off to Betts who can make a play out of it. That's a luxury that a lot teams covet.

His fumbling is definitely a reason for major concern, and something that must be addressed during the off-season. I definitely won't be looking forward to the possibility of more fumbles than touchdowns. That will not fly.

[RobH4413]

After carefully looking over Tiki's, Portis', and Betts' stats. I really don't see cause for panic.

• Tiki's fumbles: 3,1,5,9,8,9,9,5,1,3 avg- 5.3
• Clinton's fumbles: 5,3,5,3,0 avg- 3.2
• Ladell's fumbles: 2,0,0,3,6

He's had issues, and it's cause for concern, but nothing more than that. The 6 is bad, but not necessarily indicative of a trend. Does anyone know where to find his college stats. I was able to find some, but couldn't find fumbles.

[Pocket$ $traight]

Originally Posted by RobH4413

After carefully looking over Tiki's, Portis', and Betts' stats. I really don't see cause for panic.

• Tiki's fumbles: 3,1,5,9,8,9,9,5,1,3 avg- 5.3
• Clinton's fumbles: 5,3,5,3,0 avg- 3.2
• Ladell's fumbles: 2,0,0,3,6

He's had issues, and it's cause for concern, but nothing more than that. The 6 is bad, but not necessarily indicative of a trend. Does anyone know where to find his college stats. I was able to find some, but couldn't find fumbles.

Did you even consider the number of carries? When Betts gets a lot of carries, he has a lot of fumbles and yes that is a trend.

[dmek25]

Originally Posted by Grim21Reaper

Did you even consider the number of carries? When Betts gets a lot of carries, he has a lot of fumbles and yes that is a trend.

i have to agree here. it seems like the more Betts carries, the more he puts it on the ground. but, that is something that can be fixed. he had better fix it, or he will watch his carries dwindle

[RobH4413]

Originally Posted by Grim21Reaper

Did you even consider the number of carries? When Betts gets a lot of carries, he has a lot of fumbles and yes that is a trend.

Yeah, that's why I wasn't including Betts' fumbling average. The number per carries highlights it much better, and yes, it does indicate a trend.

[724Skinsfan]

Let's look at TD/Fumble ratio:

Portis *52/16
Betts *9/11

*does not include rushing or special teams.