The legacy of 'W'?

[RobH4413]

Originally Posted by Crazyhorse1

Total nonsense.

Because a right winger said it, or because there is evidence he is still alive?

Just curious...

[Crazyhorse1]

Originally Posted by RobH4413

Because a right winger said it, or because there is evidence he is still alive?

Just curious...

Because a new Osama tape surfaced today. Try reading the news.

[jsarno]

Originally Posted by Crazyhorse1

Because a new Osama tape surfaced today. Try reading the news.

OK, in the spirit of posting links, I will take the first step here:
New Osama tape surfaces after year-Gulf-World-The Times of India

In case you missed it, #1- it was from "a year ago", #2- it was not dated at all.
Do you really think a millionaire or his friends can't come up with tapes or even old clips from Bin Laden???? There have been several "fake tapes" to this point (2001 and 2004 to name a couple), so to assume just cause your news station played a tape doesn't make it real. The tape you are referring to is very old and is not any sort of verifiable evidence that Bin Laden is alive.

[RobH4413]

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[RobH4413]

Originally Posted by Crazyhorse1

Because a new Osama tape surfaced today. Try reading the news.

As-Sahab [Al-Qaeda's media wing] produced videos always contain tons of old footage mixed together in documentary style. In fact just a few weeks ago one was released that showed an old video clip of Osama bin Laden. Much like the case for that one this upcoming release reportedly has a 50-second clip of OBL. We do not have final confirmation yet but we believe this clip to be OLD, which means that it was either previously released and is just being reaired or it was recorded awhile ago but never shown till now. Either way in the language of as-Sahab videos a 50-second clip on a 40-minute produced video does not make a "new" Osama bin Laden "video". These videos always have old clips of OBL.

All of this is not to say that this video is not significant. Almost all produced as-Sahab videos are for a variety of reasons. These videos take a lot of time and energy for al-Qaeda to produce and generally they only do so for things they feel are important. For example this new video has a new animated intro which would have taken a lot of work and computing power to do.

So, yes on significant... No, this is not a new OBL video. It is a 40-minute video with a short clip of Osama bin Laden that we have likely seen before.

fromhttp://blog.wired.com/defense/2007/07/new-osama-vid-n.html

[jsarno]

Originally Posted by RobH4413

As-Sahab [Al-Qaeda's media wing] produced videos always contain tons of old footage mixed together in documentary style. In fact just a few weeks ago one was released that showed an old video clip of Osama bin Laden. Much like the case for that one this upcoming release reportedly has a 50-second clip of OBL. We do not have final confirmation yet but we believe this clip to be OLD, which means that it was either previously released and is just being reaired or it was recorded awhile ago but never shown till now. Either way in the language of as-Sahab videos a 50-second clip on a 40-minute produced video does not make a "new" Osama bin Laden "video". These videos always have old clips of OBL.

All of this is not to say that this video is not significant. Almost all produced as-Sahab videos are for a variety of reasons. These videos take a lot of time and energy for al-Qaeda to produce and generally they only do so for things they feel are important. For example this new video has a new animated intro which would have taken a lot of work and computing power to do.

So, yes on significant... No, this is not a new OBL video. It is a 40-minute video with a short clip of Osama bin Laden that we have likely seen before.

fromhttp://blog.wired.com/defense/2007/07/new-osama-vid-n.html

Good link. Enjoy your "debate" with him (and I use that term loosely), I'm done.