The legacy of 'W'?

[Crazyhorse1]

Originally Posted by jsarno

This is why I thought this would be a bush bashing thread. If you really think he has done nothing right, you're not looking, or prefer just to focus on the negative. I have mentioned several things that he has done well, you could have regurgitated one of them.

PS- 9/11 everyone thought he handled very well, the war was a decision that Dems decided to go to, the economy is in GREAT shape (yes gas prices suck but not really his fault) and Katrina was the fault of thoughless morons that couldn't lift a finger to get themselves out of the way. I think he has given too much to rescue the idiots that didn't want to leave. All those morons on their roof bitching about being rescued should have been left. No one, and I mean no one can convince me that they didn't have time. I was sitting here watching it on tv, and as soon as it passed Florida the projected path was right into New Orleans. Even if you waited just to be sure, 2 days before hand they KNEW it was coming. If 48 hours isn't enough for you to realize that you live 10+ feet BELOW sea level and need to evacuate, then you're a dee, dee, dee and I'm not concerned about your safety. I'm not going to be concerned about you if you choose not to be concerned about youself.
Why would Bush send people in early when it was dangerous? Why put others in danger for the stupidities of others? And what the "armed bandits" making life difficult...shooting helpers? Bush did the right thing by waiting, and has done too much to date. I know that is not the politically correct thing to say, and it's not the dems view, but I am not going to apologize for it. Where was all that help when Charlie hit Punta Gorda / Fort Myers? Where was all that help when Andrew hit? The problem there is the people in New Orleans have a poor me attitude and since they are "poor" they feel they should be heard and lay there until someone helps. The people in Florida are deemed as "having money" so they take care of themselves. But fact is, Punta Gorda was full of trailer parks too. Just goes to show you that Florida is full of republicans (Lee county is 80% republicans) and New Orleans is full of Democrats. DO you think it is a coincidence? I don't. Republicans are taught to fend for themselves while Dems have been taught if they can't take care of themselves (or don't want to) then someone will do it for them. Of course that doesn't apply to EVERY person, but it applies as an in general statement.

Guess what, big guy. Florida has many more democrats than republicans and you don't have any idea what people from New Orleans feel, much less documentation of any such thing. Also, New Orleans was not "full" of trailor parks by any standard I know of and the dems don't teach poor people to avoid taking care of themselves, even as the republicans break our budget with gifts to the rich (see below). Also, under Clinton, FEMA performed as brilliantly in Florida as FEMA performed poorly in New Orleans under Bush, who had deliberately downsized it into ineffectiveness. And while we're discussing reality here instead of a good old boy version of it, here's the House of Representatives report on the consequences of Bush's great tax policy.
http://www.majorityleader.gov/docupl...STAXREPORT.pdf

[jsarno]

Originally Posted by Crazyhorse1

Guess what, big guy. Florida has more democrats than republicans and you don't have any idea what people from New Orleans feel, much less proof of it. Also, New Orleans was not "full" of trailor parks and the dems don't teach people to not take care of themselves. Also, under Clinton, FEMA performed very well in Florida. And while we're discussing reality here, here the House of Representatives report of the consequences of Bush's great tax policy.
http://www.majorityleader.gov/docupl...STAXREPORT.pdf

Please, for the love of God tell me what you're smoking. I would love to live in an alternate world.
1- My point was about LEE COUNTY and the percentage of republicans there cause that is where hurricane Charlie hit. (I guess if you read the news you'd know that. Now two wrongs don't make a right...I guess I shouldn't say that.
2- I never said there were trailer parks in New Orleans. I said the trailer parks in PUNTA GORDA which is in FLORIDA, about 10 miles from Fort Myers which is in LEE COUNTY which has an overwhelming majority of REPUBLICANS.

I thought you would read what I actually said...but now your stance makes sense. You tell us to read, but apprarently what your eyes see becomes all jumbled by the time it gets to your head.

Thank you for the insignificant debate, I will move on to posters that know how to do it properly.

[Crazyhorse1]

Originally Posted by jsarno

Please, for the love of God tell me what you're smoking. I would love to live in an alternate world.
1- My point was about LEE COUNTY and the percentage of republicans there cause that is where hurricane Charlie hit. (I guess if you read the news you'd know that. Now two wrongs don't make a right...I guess I shouldn't say that.
2- I never said there were trailer parks in New Orleans. I said the trailer parks in PUNTA GORDA which is in FLORIDA, about 10 miles from Fort Myers which is in LEE COUNTY which has an overwhelming majority of REPUBLICANS.

I thought you would read what I actually said...but now your stance makes sense. You tell us to read, but apprarently what your eyes see becomes all jumbled by the time it gets to your head.

Thank you for the insignificant debate, I will move on to posters that know how to do it properly.

Try reading your own posts. You said that Florida was full of Republicans and implied with the word "too" that New Orleans also had an unusual number of trailers. If you misspoke by means of poor grammar, that's fine. If not, it's not.
But, you don't get a pass because I read what you wrote. You said you wanted a debate and I have given you material in two posts that contradict the facuality of what you have said. Now, it's clear to me that you are making up an excuse to bail.

[jsarno]

Originally Posted by Crazyhorse1

Try reading your own posts. You said that Florida was full of Republicans and implied with the word "too" that New Orleans also had an unusual number of trailers. If you misspoke by means of poor grammar, that's fine. If not, it's not.
But, you don't get a pass because I read what you wrote. You said you wanted a debate and I have given you material in two posts that contradict the facuality of what you have said. Now, it's clear to me that you are making up an excuse to bail.

Honest to goodness, I can think of no good things to say to you because you are so off base.
Using the word TOO would have to mean I mentioned New Orleans in the previous sentence, I did not. Maybe it wasn't the best word to use, but by it's context, you misread it. No biggie.
About the republicans if you noticed, which obviously you didn't, right next to it I wrote (Lee county is 80% republicans) which means it is CLARIFYING my previous comment.
Last but not least, you have yet to come to me a debate that we are having. You did a huge post and quoted me for some reason and it was about the election...something I have made no mention to. Please feel free to go back, you'll notice I never made a comment to it. So you have YET to debate with me. You are spewing random thoughts, or can't follow who you are debating with. You then make comments like "you should read more" when in fact it is you that are saying incorrect statements (I even made a quote to that "tape" you're talking about, but you have been remarkably silent).
So before I end up getting really irritated with you and saying something that I shouldn't, you will be blocked and I will have no temptation to respond to you.
I hope your tenure here turns around cause you are most certainly heading in the wrong direction.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by Crazyhorse1

Also, under Clinton, FEMA performed as brilliantly in Florida as FEMA performed poorly in New Orleans under Bush, who had deliberately downsized it into ineffectiveness.

Which hurricane are you referring to in Florida?

[RobH4413]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Which hurricane are you referring to in Florida?

Probably Floyd, but the situations are far from parallel.

The storm took a northerly turn, weakened, and FEMA still struggled.


1999 Hurricane Swamped Clinton's FEMA

The article doesn't seem to be that convincing to me, I'll look for something a little more font friendly.