The Never Ending Thread

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by jsarno

Really you guys aren't the only one...I just get caught up in it. It's like an addiction. Kinda like SS has to defend Stewart.

Tony is my Hero No seriously though, it's tough for me to have NASCAR debates with you guys. And this may come across as condescending but it's not meant to be at all, it's just that the fact is you guys don't get (I assume) the same day to day access to that world that I do. So it's not a "level playing field" for lack of a better word.

I enjoy the debates though, I just have to reminded myself of the differences sometimes

Seriously though, Hamlin isn't all he's cracked up to be.

[jsarno]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Tony is my Hero No seriously though, it's tough for me to have NASCAR debates with you guys. And this may come across as condescending but it's not meant to be at all, it's just that the fact is you guys don't get (I assume) the same day to day access to that world that I do. So it's not a "level playing field" for lack of a better word.

I enjoy the debates though, I just have to reminded myself of the differences sometimes

Seriously though, Hamlin isn't all he's cracked up to be.

While I absolutely agree with you, you are too close to the situation to look at it objectively. You would make a comment like, well that's not tony, he's a good guy. OK, we're sure you know him, but we just watched what he did on the race track, which is pretty much all we care about.
Look at Barry Bonds fans...come on, he is dirt...he is scum on dirt, and he still has millions of fans...why? Cause he does a lot of stuff on the field (even if it is pharmacudically enduced). We don't care about who they are off the field in most cases...I know I don't. You let that sway yourself to being a fan. I don't want to know my teams or people I follow, cause the more you know, the more they can let you down. I just want to be a distant fan. I don't mean to sound negative, because you have the ability to know these people outside of their medium, and that's a great thing, but that makes you closer than the average bear.
Hamlin is having a great season though...or do you mean personally?

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by jsarno

While I absolutely agree with you, you are too close to the situation to look at it objectively. You would make a comment like, well that's not tony, he's a good guy. OK, we're sure you know him, but we just watched what he did on the race track, which is pretty much all we care about.
Look at Barry Bonds fans...come on, he is dirt...he is scum on dirt, and he still has millions of fans...why? Cause he does a lot of stuff on the field (even if it is pharmacudically enduced). We don't care about who they are off the field in most cases...I know I don't. You let that sway yourself to being a fan. I don't want to know my teams or people I follow, cause the more you know, the more they can let you down. I just want to be a distant fan. I don't mean to sound negative, because you have the ability to know these people outside of their medium, and that's a great thing, but that makes you closer than the average bear.
Hamlin is having a great season though...or do you mean personally?

I hear what you're saying. It's one reason why I was glad I was assigned motorsports because I wasn't as big a fan as say NFL. I mean, my world was practically shattered when I got to know my childhood hero Darrell Green and found out he's not as great a person off camera as he is on. But I don't allow that to take away from the fact that he brought me some awesome memories on the field. I'll never forget that.

The times I've met Hamlin he was very aloof and really wanted nothing to do with me. Others have told me it's that he's really arrogant. There is also a prevailing sentiment in the garages that Gibbs has put the best crew team with him because he depends on his team much more than the rest of the top drivers because he's not good enough without them. I don't know if that's true but we did see how he struggled earlier this year. I also know though that he belittles his crew team a lot. Some say it's just because he's so competitive and he wants to win so badly. Well fine, but so does everyone else out there. They could all learn from Jeff Burton quite honestly.

[jsarno]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

I hear what you're saying. It's one reason why I was glad I was assigned motorsports because I wasn't as big a fan as say NFL. I mean, my world was practically shattered when I got to know my childhood hero Darrell Green and found out he's not as great a person off camera as he is on. But I don't allow that to take away from the fact that he brought me some awesome memories on the field. I'll never forget that.

The times I've met Hamlin he was very aloof and really wanted nothing to do with me. Others have told me it's that he's really arrogant. There is also a prevailing sentiment in the garages that Gibbs has put the best crew team with him because he depends on his team much more than the rest of the top drivers because he's not good enough without them. I don't know if that's true but we did see how he struggled earlier this year. I also know though that he belittles his crew team a lot. Some say it's just because he's so competitive and he wants to win so badly. Well fine, but so does everyone else out there. They could all learn from Jeff Burton quite honestly.

I bet your job is a lot of fun.
Burton is a good driver too...very respectful of others.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by jsarno

I bet your job is a lot of fun.
Burton is a good driver too...very respectful of others.

Burton is just a super nice guy. Yeah the job is fun but a hell of a lot of work. Scheduling programs especially can be damn hard

[jsarno]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Burton is just a super nice guy. Yeah the job is fun but a hell of a lot of work. Scheduling programs especially can be damn hard

What is it with all this ladies softball?

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by jsarno

What is it with all this ladies softball?

Contractual obligations, it rates well, and we're in the dog days of summer