The legacy of 'W'?

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by 12thMan

You're right on that one. Do you think we're more divided along racial or religous lines?

That's a really good question. I think when it comes to politics, probably religious lines. I'd have to think about that one

[12thMan]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

That's a really good question. I think when it comes to politics, probably religious lines. I'd have to think about that one

The reason I ask is because your comment on Romney is interesting, yet true.

I think, initially anyway, that we're more ready for a black or female president than a Mormon. Interesting to say the least.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by 12thMan

The reason I ask is because your comment on Romney is interesting, yet true.

I think, initially anyway, that we're more ready for a black or female president than a Mormon. Interesting to say the least.

You hear that story about the guy who recently refused to shake Romney's hand "because he's a Mormon" Had that been Obama and "I refuse to shake hands with a Black man" that story would be everywhere. Maybe it's because Mormons don't have as strong a voice nationally, but still I find it interesting that there was no real outcry over that.

When are the next debates by the way?

[12thMan]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

You hear that story about the guy who recently refused to shake Romney's hand "because he's a Mormon" Had that been Obama and "I refuse to shake hands with a Black man" that story would be everywhere. Maybe it's because Mormons don't have as strong a voice nationally, but still I find it interesting that there was no real outcry over that.

When are the next debates by the way?

Yeah, that would have spread like wild fire had it been Obama.

My thoughts on the question of Mormonism is that, perhaps, when we look at the Constitution and, more importantly, the patriarchs, they were either Christian or espoused some type of religious beliefs. You know, we have some precendent there, some history with "Christianity". As progressive and as forward thinking we have become over the centuries, Mormonism, while accepted, probably isn't perceived as the faith that invested in the forging and the forming of the Union. Besides Brigham Young, I can't think of any modern day Mormon that has made a significant impact on the country.

People say well, I'm not religious so I don't care one way or another. Again, I don't think it's entirely a matter of him being religious or holdng up God, though I think that's a big part of it, I think it's a matter of people not knowing much about this "faith of yours." Yes, they teach a lot of the same values and beliefs and even scriptures, but it's almost perceieved as it's own little sect or society of people and not a part of the mainstream.

I welcome anyone to help us us on this one. But I think in general people dont' separate individuals from their faith. And if people are a tad bit skeptical about Mormonism, which they are, then they're probably going to be hesitant on Romney too.

I think the next debate for the Repubs is June 30th in Iowa. I think the candidates are growing weary of dabating with such a wide field of candidates.

[RobH4413]

Originally Posted by 12thMan

The reason I ask is because your comment on Romney is interesting, yet true.

I think, initially anyway, that we're more ready for a black or female president than a Mormon. Interesting to say the least.

Forget religion... Romney is charismatic. I see us electing for charisma before thinking about his religion or politics.

Just the nature of the beast.

[saden1]

Originally Posted by RobH4413

Forget religion... Romney is charismatic. I see us electing for charisma before thinking about his religion or politics.

Just the nature of the beast.

Romney is charismatic? I suppose it depends on how you see him. I see him as disingenuous and he kinda reminds me of John Kerry. I pay very close attention to a candidates body language and facial expressions, and I really don't like that of Romney and Hilary.

Checkout this great article on leading presidential candidates and what their body language tells us.

[RobH4413]

Originally Posted by saden1

Romney is charismatic? I suppose it depends on how you see him. I see him as disingenuous and he kinda reminds me of John Kerry. I pay very close attention to a candidates body language and facial expressions, and I really don't like that of Romney and Hilary.

Checkout this great article on leading presidential candidates and what their body language tells us.

I think he's a douche and I don't like him. I'm just going on what I hear from the general population. Your article backs me up on this one.

[RobH4413]

I'm down... I think it should be open to everyone though, with fair warning before hand that any ignorant / inappropriate comments will result in 3 month ban (literally) and deletion of your post.

Plus I think Smoot wants to lay the smack down on someone... It's been a while since It's happened. If I were a mod, I'd be playing "The Final Countdown" on permanent loop before the thread just to get ready to dish out some action.

Seriously though, I think everyone can benefit from hearing a wide range of thoughts / ideas in a semi-controlled environment. It'll be our farewell to the off season thread.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by RobH4413

I'm down... I think it should be open to everyone though, with fair warning before hand that any ignorant / inappropriate comments will result in 3 month ban (literally) and deletion of your post.

Plus I think Smoot wants to lay the smack down on someone... It's been a while since It's happened. If I were a mod, I'd be playing "The Final Countdown" on permanent loop before the thread just to get ready to dish out some action.

Seriously though, I think everyone can benefit from hearing a wide range of thoughts / ideas in a semi-controlled environment. It'll be our farewell to the off season thread.

I don't know. It took a while for us to have faith that we could renew political discussion.

I'm not against the discussion, which I think should be free for all. But, we'd have to be very careful and no "You all hate Michael Vick because he's Black" posts.

Ultimately, this is Matty's call

[724Skinsfan]

Okay, here's a shocker: I'm a little confused. What exactly would the debate/discussion be about?