The legacy of 'W'?

[saden1]

Originally Posted by jsarno

LOL...there is progress. 3K+ americans dead is not nearly as bad as it could be. Do you feel Iraq is exactly the same as it was when we started this war?

It might be marginally better but that's not good enough. I suppose I'm biased because I expected us to fail when we went in. That doesn't mean I wanted us to fail, it just means I was cognizant of reality of what it would mean to "win" and how difficult of a task it would be. Plus, I understand the concept of sunk cost.

[jsarno]

Originally Posted by saden1

It might be marginally better but that's not good enough. I suppose I'm biased because I expected us to fail when we went in. That doesn't mean I wanted us to fail, it just means I was cognizant of reality of what it would mean to "win" and how difficult of a task it would be. Plus, I understand the concept of sunk cost.

Iraq has a completely new government from head to toe...how is that not progress?
We really can't view it as a win or loss scenario. What would constitute a "win"?

[saden1]

Originally Posted by jsarno

Iraq has a completely new government from head to toe...how is that not progress?
We really can't view it as a win or loss scenario. What would constitute a "win"?

Why don't you ask the president and crew: