The legacy of 'W'?

[jsarno]

Originally Posted by saden1

It might be marginally better but that's not good enough. I suppose I'm biased because I expected us to fail when we went in. That doesn't mean I wanted us to fail, it just means I was cognizant of reality of what it would mean to "win" and how difficult of a task it would be. Plus, I understand the concept of sunk cost.

Iraq has a completely new government from head to toe...how is that not progress?
We really can't view it as a win or loss scenario. What would constitute a "win"?