Redskins have the worst defensive line in the league

[Pocket$ $traight]

So let me get this straight. The Redskins line is the worst in the league. Now, are we talking about a line that has the #1 Pro-bowl corner hurt, Smoot and Macklin hurt, #1 Pro-bowl linebacker hurt, Fletcher hurt, Marshall hurt, Big Joe hurt, Daniels hurt, Griffin hurt, Rocky a bust, Carter regresses, Golston and Montgomery do not improve at all, and Landry is a bust. If all of those scenarios are true than I will agree with them. Otherwise, they are a bunch of f-ing morons who looked at the 2006 stats before they put together a meaningless article.

And for anyone who agrees with them. Shame on you.

Why don't people look at the FACTS before they agree with some idiotic article that was composed in late June?

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by Grim21Reaper

So let me get this straight. The Redskins line is the worst in the league. Now, are we talking about a line that has the #1 Pro-bowl corner hurt, Smoot and Macklin hurt, #1 Pro-bowl linebacker hurt, Fletcher hurt, Marshall hurt, Big Joe hurt, Daniels hurt, Griffin hurt, Rocky a bust, Carter regresses, Golston and Montgomery do not improve at all, and Landry is a bust. If all of those scenarios are true than I will agree with them. Otherwise, they are a bunch of f-ing morons who looked at the 2006 stats before they put together a meaningless article.

And for anyone who agrees with them. Shame on you.

Why don't people look at the FACTS before they agree with some idiotic article that was composed in late June?

I don't think the linebackers and secondary have anything to do with this analysis though. This is strictly the DTs and DEs

[Pocket$ $traight]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

I don't thin the linebackers and secondary have anything to do with this analysis though. This is strictly the DTs and DEs

Than that is a faulty analysis. Every level affects the others. That still doesn't change the assumptions that I laid out on the linemen.

I know this, the D-line was dominant against Carolina. No 32 ranked line could have performed like that.

[gibbsisgod]

Originally Posted by Grim21Reaper

Than that is a faulty analysis. Every level affects the others. That still doesn't change the assumptions that I laid out on the linemen.

I know this, the D-line was dominant against Carolina. No 32 ranked line could have performed like that.

Carolina had the 24th ranked offense last year. Every d-line dominated them. Its not like they had a great o-line and our guys just took it to 'em.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by Grim21Reaper

Than that is a faulty analysis. Every level affects the others. That still doesn't change the assumptions that I laid out on the linemen.

I know this, the D-line was dominant against Carolina. No 32 ranked line could have performed like that.

Here is how I see it. When you add it all up our line isn't very good. Otherwise we would get more sacks/hurries and we would have played better run defense.

1. It seems when Griff is hurt our line totally falls apart. Perhaps the staff needs to lower his # of plays so he can stay healthy and fresh.

2. Daniels hasn't done a damn thing since he has been here except complain that he was tired because of the off season program. Go cry me a river.

3. Goldston isn't strong enough to be an every down NFL DT. Not sure what the coaches saw but I saw him getting blown off the ball waaaaay to much.

4. We don't know if Mongomery can live up to his potential.

5. AC isn't an every down 4-3 end cause he isn't strong enough.

6. Like Griff, Joe S. is starting to break down alot.

7. Evans can't beat out the starters at DE which is where we need the most help so he must not be very good.

8. Wynn? Don't even get me started. Great locker room guy and all, but he can't play at the NFL level anymore. He is as slow as a turtle.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by Grim21Reaper

So let me get this straight. The Redskins line is the worst in the league. Now, are we talking about a line that has the #1 Pro-bowl corner hurt, Smoot and Macklin hurt, #1 Pro-bowl linebacker hurt, Fletcher hurt, Marshall hurt, Big Joe hurt, Daniels hurt, Griffin hurt, Rocky a bust, Carter regresses, Golston and Montgomery do not improve at all, and Landry is a bust. If all of those scenarios are true than I will agree with them. Otherwise, they are a bunch of f-ing morons who looked at the 2006 stats before they put together a meaningless article.

And for anyone who agrees with them. Shame on you.

Why don't people look at the FACTS before they agree with some idiotic article that was composed in late June?

Grim, the facts agree with the conclusion reached by Scouts Inc. All you are doing is passing the blame from one unit to the next tryimg to justify a defensive rebound this season.

Sean Taylor is not to blame for taking poor angles and god awful pass coverage because the line was bad. The Line is not to blame for being awful because Holdman and Marshall suck and the DBs are doing a bad job. The Linebackers are doing a poor job because Carter and Golston aren't eating up blocks.

Well, at least if no one is at fault, we dont have to worry about ever fixing the problems.

Every unit on the defense was below average next year. We didn't do nearly enough (nor could we with one first day draft pick) to change the future outlook for this unit.

Everyone is one year older. For players like Sean Taylor and Carlos Rogers, that means one more year of experience. For everyone else, it means the expectation for effectiveness decreases from last year. Unfortunately for us, that means 9 starters on defense will likely not be as good as they were last year, or at the very least, stay consistent with last years performance.

Fletcher will help in the middle, but you know what his "upside" is. There's really no potential on this defense for this season, especially in the front seven. If everyone stays healthy though, these guys just may have enough left in their tanks to improve on a sup par 2006 season. Just dont count on it, this defense is way, way, past its theoretical prime.

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Grim, the facts agree with the conclusion reached by Scouts Inc. All you are doing is passing the blame from one unit to the next tryimg to justify a defensive rebound this season.

Sean Taylor is not to blame for taking poor angles and god awful pass coverage because the line was bad. The Line is not to blame for being awful because Holdman and Marshall suck and the DBs are doing a bad job. The Linebackers are doing a poor job because Carter and Golston aren't eating up blocks.

Well, at least if no one is at fault, we dont have to worry about ever fixing the problems.

Every unit on the defense was below average next year. We didn't do nearly enough (nor could we with one first day draft pick) to change the future outlook for this unit.

Everyone is one year older. For players like Sean Taylor and Carlos Rogers, that means one more year of experience. For everyone else, it means the expectation for effectiveness decreases from last year. Unfortunately for us, that means 9 starters on defense will likely not be as good as they were last year, or at the very least, stay consistent with last years performance.

Fletcher will help in the middle, but you know what his "upside" is. There's really no potential on this defense for this season, especially in the front seven. If everyone stays healthy though, these guys just may have enough left in their tanks to improve on a sup par 2006 season. Just dont count on it, this defense is way, way, past its theoretical prime.

GTripp has a point there, everyone on the Defense sucked equally last year.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by EARTHQUAKE2689

GTripp has a point there, everyone on the Defense sucked equally last year.

When your 5-11 there is PLENTY of blame to go around. The offense sucked almost as bad as the defense.