Simeon Rice released by Bucs then Broncos. Now a Colt.

[memphisskin]

Bruce Smith had a ten sack year here in dc, which I would take from Rice, Carter, or anyone lined up on our d-line. Rice is a bit injury prone, but worth the risk.

[Paintrain]

I'm on the fence with him. I still have ill feelings from the Bruce Smith era, he was only out for himself and his record IMO.. I think Rice has some of the same selfishness and would buck Grilliams a little if he impeded his style (see Archuleta, Adam)..

On the other hand, he instantly (if healthy) becomes far and away the best pass rusher on the team and someone capable of 6-8 sacks.. With him on one side & Carter on the other that will cause some double teams and open gaps for Landry or Taylor to blitz thru.. I wonder how much of his 'failing the physical' was contract related since they asked him to restructure and he refused.

[jamf]

Forget Simeon Rice, We need to sign Ron Jeremy to a Vet.Min contract. That guy can plug up some holes....

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

Originally Posted by jamf

Forget Simeon Rice, We need to sign Ron Jeremy to a Vet.Min contract. That guy can plug up some holes....

wow!!!!!!!!!!!

[jsarno]

Originally Posted by jamf

Forget Simeon Rice, We need to sign Ron Jeremy to a Vet.Min contract. That guy can plug up some holes....

GIGGIDY!

Well, Matty's post shows that he is still injured (failed physical) so I'm going to have to back away from him unless we're talking SMALL money. I have no problem giving him 1 mil with huge incentives.

[jdlea]

Man, I would love to have Simeon here like 3 years ago. However, he's available now and I think the Skins should take a flyer on him. If you have cap space, then sign him to a decent one year deal and find out if he can still go. Put him on the left in obvious passing situations and let him go after the QB with Carter on the other side. That gets me "excited" just thinking about it. I would love to see Rice end up in Washington.

BTW, by decent I mean >$4 million for this year.

[SC Skins Fan]

Originally Posted by jdlea

BTW, by decent I mean >$4 million for this year.

A one-year deal sounds good, but I seriously doubt Rice would be interested in signing anything that didn't include a pretty decent signing bonus and if you had a one-year deal that entire charge would be forwarded to this year. Plus, JLC reported that the Skins are $7 mil under the cap before getting Landry's deal done. Apparently the max charge he could have would be $2.1 (as that is what is left under the rookie cap, but I'm not cap expert). In any case, for sake of argument say Landry's charge ends up as $2 mil. That would leave the Skins w/ $5 mil, which a one year, $4 mil deal to Rice would eat up. Then what about getting a new deal for Cooley? I just looked up the cap charges of the top paid tight ends and Shockey, Crumpler, and Winslow all have cap charges right around $4 mil (Gates is at almost $5 mil). I'd rather spend the money on Cooley as he will be the one that will help the team for many years as opposed to bringing in some injured guy to (maybe) help for one. The Skins need DL help, but not at the cost Rice will likely command.

[jdlea]

Originally Posted by SC Skins Fan

A one-year deal sounds good, but I seriously doubt Rice would be interested in signing anything that didn't include a pretty decent signing bonus and if you had a one-year deal that entire charge would be forwarded to this year. Plus, JLC reported that the Skins are $7 mil under the cap before getting Landry's deal done. Apparently the max charge he could have would be $2.1 (as that is what is left under the rookie cap, but I'm not cap expert). In any case, for sake of argument say Landry's charge ends up as $2 mil. That would leave the Skins w/ $5 mil, which a one year, $4 mil deal to Rice would eat up. Then what about getting a new deal for Cooley? I just looked up the cap charges of the top paid tight ends and Shockey, Crumpler, and Winslow all have cap charges right around $4 mil (Gates is at almost $5 mil). I'd rather spend the money on Cooley as he will be the one that will help the team for many years as opposed to bringing in some injured guy to (maybe) help for one. The Skins need DL help, but not at the cost Rice will likely command.

I thought that if an extension were worked out with Cooley the Skins wouldn't start feeling a cap hit until next season. If they're going to have to take hit this year, then I absolutely extend Cooley rather than take a shot at Rice. Or, I put the Cooley talks into overdrive right after Landry signs on and try to get Cooley done in order to find out exactly what I can offer Rice. My thinking being that once Landry and Cooley are done, you're pretty much done adding players/cap space. If that's the case, you go ahead and throw it away trying to see if Rice can produce.

[MTK]

He's 33, I would think he would be looking for at least a 2-3 year deal.

[EXoffender]

I would've been happy drafting Gaines Adams but, of course TB selected him before we picked. I'm even more satisfied we didn't trade up for him.

[diehardskin2982]

I would take Rice for a 2 year encentives based on performance deal. He could return to a suitable DE or be the next Bruce Smith. But right now its worth a shot. I'd also take Tank- I think the combination of those 2 would solidify the line. However there this thing called a salary cap that holds us back.

[jdlea]

Originally Posted by diehardskin2982

I would take Rice for a 2 year encentives based on performance deal. He could return to a suitable DE or be the next Bruce Smith. But right now its worth a shot. I'd also take Tank- I think the combination of those 2 would solidify the line. However there this thing called a salary cap that holds us back.

I don't think Bruce Smith was a bad signing at all. He was old, but he was still pretty productive, not dominant by any means, but he wasn't bad. I'd be happy if we got Simeon and he ended up being Bruce Smith

[70Chip]

Originally Posted by jdlea

I don't think Bruce Smith was a bad signing at all. He was old, but he was still pretty productive, not dominant by any means, but he wasn't bad. I'd be happy if we got Simeon and he ended up being Bruce Smith

My memory of the Bruce Smith fiasco is quite different. I thought it was embarrassing to have a washed up shadow out there desperately trying to get those last few sacks when the team was losing the whole time. Then they printed t-shirts. Horrible.

[jsarno]

Originally Posted by 70Chip

My memory of the Bruce Smith fiasco is quite different. I thought it was embarrassing to have a washed up shadow out there desperately trying to get those last few sacks when the team was losing the whole time. Then they printed t-shirts. Horrible.

I agree, Smith didn't do much for us at all, and it was all a waiting game.

Rice isn't going after any record, I think he just still wants to play. I am sure he still has a couple good seasons left in him.
But as people pointed out, there is no point in spending money on a guy that is injured...he NEEDS to be healthy. If so, pay the man, and get him on the field!!!

[TheMalcolmConnection]

Normally when we talk about jumping at every free agent on the market, I'm like, "Here we go again..." but he really would be a welcome addition.

While he would be welcome, we also have more pressing needs right now, namely extending Cooley as was mentioned above. If signing Rice were to put that in jeopardy, I'd be SERIOUSLY pissed.