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Old 07-27-2007, 01:30 PM   #1
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Normally when we talk about jumping at every free agent on the market, I'm like, "Here we go again..." but he really would be a welcome addition.

While he would be welcome, we also have more pressing needs right now, namely extending Cooley as was mentioned above. If signing Rice were to put that in jeopardy, I'd be SERIOUSLY pissed.
We have plenty of time to extend Cooley, but our season is rapidly approaching and we still have the same weakass DE's that we had last year. Sure a lot of us are hoping that Carter will step up, but who says for sure he will? We have the weakest DE's in all of football...we NEED Rice.
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Old 07-27-2007, 02:06 PM   #2
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Re: Simeon Rice released by Bucs

JLC's 2 cents on Rice:

Simeon Rice - Redskins Insider

When you cover the Redskins you expect to get a flood of emails whenever a big-name player is cut. And if he happens to be a D Lineman, or, in particular, a pass-rushing D end, well, forget about it.

So with Simeon Rice suddenly on the street, I was prepared for the influx of questions, and you guys didn't let me down. Okay, here's what I know. The Skins didn't rush into anything as soon as he was cut and there were no organization-wide discussions about Rice last night.

If they went solely on the reports scouts and coaches have on Rice, there would be significant concerns. His age, fitness, shoulder status (failed a physical with the Bucs), attitude in the locker room, and motivation on the field (seen as a guy who wants to get sacks and isn't worried about the team concept; a one-trick pony who doesn't do much against the run) would be major issues.

However, with this ownership/management team, you can never say never when a guy like Rice is on the street. And this case a little unique as many in the organization who have self-scouted the roster would admit the lack of an impact pass rusher is troubling. Now, is Rice still an elite force or is he someone who will be hit or miss chasing the QB and can only get on the field in certain third down situations?


Many in NFL circles would say he's closer to the hit or miss part, but, considering all he has accomplished in this game, it's hard to see Rice not wanting to be compensated like a star.

From Rice's perspective, some people close to him have the Redskins on the short list of teams they think might express interest. But, as I've said in the past, that's nothing new because there isn't an agent in the NFL who does not want the Skins in on any negotiation as the price tends to skyrocket. Also, some people close to Rice would tell you that the Bucs letting him go had much more to do with his $7 million base salary than his shoulder problem and that he is raring to go and could be a major boost to any roster he lands on.

So, what to make of all of this? Glad you asked.

My sense now, and, admittedly, we are crazy early in the whole process, is that the Skins will keep an eye on him, try to get a feel for his health and see where the money goes. I don't see them rushing in, setting the market or making a big push - I think Detroit and some other clubs will show the deepest interest - and I think there are a lot of people in the building here who would have reservations about brining in this guy now, so far along in the offseason. Would he be okay with being a situational guy? Would he fit in?

At the right price, who knows. And I know Simeon is a well spoken dude who could probably allay some fears in conversations with the team. It's an interesting scenario and one I will stay on top of to the best of my ability. I don't rate it a high likelihood as of this moment, but, again, these things have a way of swaying all over the place. Will post more as I gather it.

As for Landry, they were pretty far along last night, talking about escalators and bonuses. If the deal isn't completed by late this afternoon for any reason, I would be pretty surprised if it lasted more than another day. There was continued optimism on both sides as of very late last night.
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Old 07-27-2007, 03:51 PM   #3
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Re: Simeon Rice released by Bucs

Failing a team physical doesn't necessarily mean much. Physicals are very subjective and while he "failed" the Bucs physical he could easily pass another team's exam.
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Old 07-27-2007, 04:15 PM   #4
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Failing a team physical doesn't necessarily mean much. Physicals are very subjective and while he "failed" the Bucs physical he could easily pass another team's exam.
That's actually a good point.
So let's get him in for a workout and physical!
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Old 07-27-2007, 05:01 PM   #5
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Re: Simeon Rice released by Bucs

I know it's not going to happen. But I would really like us to sign him. Our D-Line is by far our weakest position and there is no one even close to him available. Personally I think it would be a good pick up.
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Old 07-27-2007, 07:37 PM   #6
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Re: Simeon Rice released by Bucs

John Clayton is reporting Washington as a likely suitor and place for him to end up. I have no problem with him getting on the roster, getting healthy and playing on passing downs for us. What could it possibly hurt, and he's not going to be asking for a big contract, especially the way he was released.
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Re: Simeon Rice released by Bucs

Gibbs said the 'Skins weren't interested, for what it's worth
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Old 07-27-2007, 10:07 PM   #8
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Gibbs said the 'Skins weren't interested, for what it's worth
Where did you get this information?
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Where did you get this information?

Some quick snippets from Joe Gibbs' post-practice press conference.
Asked if the Redskins had any interest in recently released defensive end Simeon Rice, he said simply, "No."

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Some quick snippets from Joe Gibbs' post-practice press conference.
Asked if the Redskins had any interest in recently released defensive end Simeon Rice, he said simply, "No."

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Thanks twice....once for telling us that any Rice deal is dead on arrival and two....your youtube link is hillarious!
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Gibbs said the 'Skins weren't interested, for what it's worth
SO that means that we probably are interested.
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Old 07-27-2007, 08:31 PM   #12
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Re: Simeon Rice released by Bucs

I feel really good about our defensive situation this year. Particularly Golston and Montgomery. I think the fact that we didn't go out and draft or trade for any lineman has to make these guys feel good.
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I feel really good about our defensive situation this year. Particularly Golston and Montgomery. I think the fact that we didn't go out and draft or trade for any lineman has to make these guys feel good.

You must be high!
Golston is a solid backup, not a starter....and Montgomery wouldv'e been cut last year if he wasn't a young draft pick....I hear good things...but the way they were last year....yikes...
If we cant improve on DT...we need to do it at end.

A MLB aint gunna do the job of a DT. and a LB aint gunna do the job of a pass rushing end. We need Rice, or Strahan or someone that can sack someone.

If we've got 2 linebackers doing the job of 2 DLine, that means were essentially playing with 9 players on D!
UGH!
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Old 07-28-2007, 01:18 AM   #14
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Re: Simeon Rice released by Bucs

I have one for you concerning the signing of S. Rice...NO!

Lets not, have another Deion Sanders, Marc Carrier, etc. It's just not worth the money. Yes, our D-line is questionable...however, he not worth paying the big contract to for the limited amount of return you will get from him. I past post said he has 12 sacks in 2005. Did we fail to realize the 2005 was 2 years ago?
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Old 07-28-2007, 06:20 AM   #15
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Re: Simeon Rice released by Bucs

This is the one "splurge" of the offseason that has been rumored for the Redskins that I strongly hope that we do. We all can agree that Rice would be an upgrade over wynn, daniels, evans, and even carter for that matter. I've seen some people only wanting him to play on passing downs...please....hes better against the run and the pass than the guys we have now. Let's say we offered him a one year 4 million dollar deal or something of that sort, what would that hurt? He's in for one year, if he helps us he helps us, if we see early he isn't healthy he can sit on the bench and we can give him the money we had the room for anyway and send him on his way the next year.
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