How Many Games Should Vick Be Suspended?

[Sheriff Gonna Getcha]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

I saw ESPN this am and I was shocked. People are hooting and hollering at Vick when he showed up at court, holding up all these silly ass signs, people are dressed up in dog suits, people are basically in an uproar.

We are talking about dog fighting for crying out loud!!!! Not murder or rape. Kobe Bryant was accused of a worse crime than dog fighting and he was still allowed to play until the process played out. I am a dog owner and I can't believe that people have so much anger towards the guy. Dog fighting is a discusting thing but jeez, so far they are just allegations.

I honestly think some of this is racial. If this was Brett Farve I don't think you would have so much anger from white people. I could be wrong, but I honestly think that becasue Vick is black, and he has let some of his thug homeboys leach on to him is the reason there is so much backlash.

With the crap that is going on in the world today people really need to find something better to do with their time than protest against Michael Vick. Let the process play out in the courts and mind your own damn business.

I think that race plays a limited role in this Vick fiasco. A minority of white people want to see Vick go down simply because he is black and famous and regardless of whether he is innocent. A minority of black people want to see Vick go scott free simply because he is black and regardless of whether he is guilty. The vast majority of us, however, want to see him go down if he is guilty because dog-fighting is just disgusting.

As for the protests, I think you underestimate PETA and the public's love of animals. It's not just that he ran a dog-fighting ring, it's that he shot, electrocuted, and beat to death those dogs that were too nice to fight. In my opinion it is pathetic and he deserves what he has coming to him if he is guilty.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by Sheriff Gonna Getcha

I think that race plays a limited role in this Vick fiasco. A minority of white people want to see Vick go down simply because he is black and famous and regardless of whether he is innocent. A minority of black people want to see Vick go scott free simply because he is black and regardless of whether he is guilty. The vast majority of us, however, want to see him go down if he is guilty because dog-fighting is just disgusting.

As for the protests, I think you underestimate PETA and the public's love of animals. It's not just that he ran a dog-fighting ring, it's that he shot, electrocuted, and beat to death those dogs that were too nice to fight. In my opinion it is pathetic and he deserves what he has coming to him if he is guilty.

I am a dog lover/owner and I am black. But the media circus is just ridcules. Does anyone know if Vick actually killed theses dogs himself? It's like everyone wants to convict the guy before he goes to trial. The allegations are most likely coming from his hoodrat homeboys who are trying to save their own asses. So far the only thing he is guilty of is hanging on to these low life thugs.

But I do agree with you, if he is guilty of this and particularly if he was betting of dog fights then he needs to go down.

[Sheriff Gonna Getcha]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

It's like everyone wants to convict the guy before he goes to trial. The allegations are most likely coming from his hoodrat homeboys who are trying to save their own asses. So far the only thing he is guilty of is hanging on to these low life thugs.

He will get his day in court. But, I do not need a jury to find beyond a reasonable doubt that the guy is a loser. I often hear stories from second-hand sources about some jerk doing something dumb and I conclude "that guy is a loser," all without the benefit of a trial by jury. Think about how many times you have reached conclusions about a politician, celebrity, neighbor, co-worker, etc. all based on second-hand reports/stories. I find no reason to treat Vick differenty.

As for the evidence arrayed against him, I would bet my paycheck that there is more to the prosecution's case than a few snitches. As some have already noted, they will likely have a pile of evidence consisting of, for example, financial records showing payments for dog-fighting paraphernalia, airline tickets or gas station receipts showing that Vick was at his residence on X dates and undoubtedly saw the dog-fighting facilities, phone records showing calls between Vick and other dog-fighting ringleaders, etc.

[jsarno]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

But I do agree with you, if he is guilty of this and particularly if he was betting of dog fights then he needs to go down.

Well, I am all for trial by jury, but I would bet my house that he's guilty, the evidence is too overwhelming.
So give it time, he will be convicted.