Simeon Rice released by Bucs then Broncos. Now a Colt.

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Originally Posted by jsarno

Yeah, but cutting Rice is a good football move for them if he truly is injured...and it will likely make space for signing someone like Culpepper.

Why in the hell does TB need any more QB's. They got like 3 that have started at one time or another and another one who thinks he's retired. Another QB would be a stupid move.

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Originally Posted by angryssg

Why in the hell does TB need any more QB's. They got like 3 that have started at one time or another and another one who thinks he's retired. Another QB would be a stupid move.

Well, I didn't say it was the smartest move they can make, but they are looking heavily into Culpepper.
Although, do they really have a viable starter? Getting Culpepper would be an upgrade over what they have.

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Originally Posted by jsarno

Well, I didn't say it was the smartest move they can make, but they are looking heavily into Culpepper.
Although, do they really have a viable starter? Getting Culpepper would be an upgrade over what they have.

An upgrade is yet to be seen as Culpepper hasn't performed in nearly two years. NFC East fans can attest to the fact that Garcia was hot last year. Simms was comming into his own before he got hurt, and John Gruden was enamored by Gradkowski's "sick passion for football". Plumber isnt officially retired. You are only going to carry 2 (active) of them through the regular season. Something has to give.

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Originally Posted by angryssg

An upgrade is yet to be seen as Culpepper hasn't performed in nearly two years. NFC East fans can attest to the fact that Garcia was hot last year. Simms was comming into his own before he got hurt, and John Gruden was enamored by Gradkowski's "sick passion for football". Plumber isnt officially retired. You are only going to carry 2 (active) of them through the regular season. Something has to give.

Umm, Simms, in 3 games had 1 td and 7 int's last year before his injury. The year before he had 10 tds and 7 ints in 11 games. I don't call that "into his own".
Gradkowski had 9 tds and 9 ints in 14 games last year...that sucks.
Garcia, well, if you take away last year (10 tds, 2 ints in 8 games) he had 13 tds and 15 ints the previous 2 seasons (17 games). Seriously, who would you rather have Garcia (past his prime and 37) or Culpepper (had one of the greatest football seasons ever)?
Plummer, well, I don't quite get him. He's only 32, and he's thrown for the same amount of tds as ints. (161) In 10 years, he has only thrown for over 3k yards 4 times. Plummer has never been a pro bowler either. No one knows if he's playing or not either.

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Originally Posted by jsarno

Umm, Simms, in 3 games had 1 td and 7 int's last year before his injury. The year before he had 10 tds and 7 ints in 11 games. I don't call that "into his own".
Gradkowski had 9 tds and 9 ints in 14 games last year...that sucks.
Garcia, well, if you take away last year (10 tds, 2 ints in 8 games) he had 13 tds and 15 ints the previous 2 seasons (17 games). Seriously, who would you rather have Garcia (past his prime and 37) or Culpepper (had one of the greatest football seasons ever)?
Plummer, well, I don't quite get him. He's only 32, and he's thrown for the same amount of tds as ints. (161) In 10 years, he has only thrown for over 3k yards 4 times. Plummer has never been a pro bowler either. No one knows if he's playing or not either.

Honestly I would rather have Garcia. This is a "What have you done for me lately?" league. And all stats aside Simms was getting it done the year before last. and Gradkowski was only a rookie last year. I say that they have a great bench in terms of experience down the depth chart. Let Garcia run the offense for a couple more years, then lets Simms have it back for 2 or 3 seasons and by then Gradkowski should be ready.


Honestly I do not care other wise, but adding Culpepper just seems silly.

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Originally Posted by angryssg

Honestly I would rather have Garcia. This is a "What have you done for me lately?" league. And all stats aside Simms was getting it done the year before last. and Gradkowski was only a rookie last year. I say that they have a great bench in terms of experience down the depth chart. Let Garcia run the offense for a couple more years, then lets Simms have it back for 2 or 3 seasons and by then Gradkowski should be ready.


Honestly I do not care other wise, but adding Culpepper just seems silly.

So let me get this straight, by your standards, this is how the it will go down:
Garcia 07, & 08.
Simms 09, 10, 11. (benched at the age of 31)
Gradkowski takes over in 2012?
Do you really think that could even remotely pan out? Even worse, I don't think any of those players can win it. Garcia has proven that he needs to have a fantastic team to win, he doesn't have that in Tampa.
I'd take Culpepper in a heart beat over those bums.

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Originally Posted by jsarno

So let me get this straight, by your standards, this is how the it will go down:
Garcia 07, & 08.
Simms 09, 10, 11. (benched at the age of 31)
Gradkowski takes over in 2012?
Do you really think that could even remotely pan out? Even worse, I don't think any of those players can win it. Garcia has proven that he needs to have a fantastic team to win, he doesn't have that in Tampa.
I'd take Culpepper in a heart beat over those bums.

Well, Simms would be released or traded by 31, but yeah to each his own and thats my evaluation. What do you mean they cannot win it? All they need is to manage the game and not lose it with a solid running game and a defense. Look at Trent Dilfer and Ben Rothlisburger. I am not saying that Ben is a bad QB, but he didn't have to win games with his arm.