Any News on Andre Carter?

[jermus22]

Very few guys past or present can dominate both as pass rushers and run stoppers. Dexter Manley was an elite pass rusher (especially off the edge) but never a dominate run stopper (which is why we had Daryl Grant and Neal Olkewicz helping him). On the other hand, guys like Reggie White and Charles Mann were very good at both, although Mann slowed down in his later years as a pass rusher. Perhaps we're expecting too much from a weakside defensive end when we ask him to dominate in both aspects of his game. At 255 pounds (he apparently lost 10 lbs this offseason), Carter is more fit as a rusher off the edge rather than a slugger and mauler in the trenches.

[jsarno]

Originally Posted by jermus22

Very few guys past or present can dominate both as pass rushers and run stoppers. Dexter Manley was an elite pass rusher (especially off the edge) but never a dominate run stopper (which is why we had Daryl Grant and Neal Olkewicz helping him). On the other hand, guys like Reggie White and Charles Mann were very good at both, although Mann slowed down in his later years as a pass rusher. Perhaps we're expecting too much from a weakside defensive end when we ask him to dominate in both aspects of his game. At 255 pounds (he apparently lost 10 lbs this offseason), Carter is more fit as a rusher off the edge rather than a slugger and mauler in the trenches.

He's down to 255 pounds? That's LB size, not DE size. I hope he got quicker.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by jsarno

He's down to 255 pounds? That's LB size, not DE size. I hope he got quicker.

I don't think his weight matters. 255 or 280, a pure pass rusher who works hard to avoid the tackles instead of beat them is toast against the run.

If this helps him be a more efficient pass rusher, I guarentee you he's no worse off at stopping the run than he was last year.

That's not exactly a vote of confidence, but I'm confident that we see significant improvement out of Carter this season.

Rest of the DL...lets just say I'd definately let Wynn play the LE. Daniels is pretty awful against the run too. Still a good pass rusher though.

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Don't think his weight matters. 255 or 280, a pure pass rusher who works hard to avoid the tackles instead of beat them is toast against the run.

If this helps him be a more efficient pass rusher, I guarentee you he's no worse off at stopping the run than he was last year.

That's not exactly a vote of confidence, but I'm confident that we see significant improvement out of Carter this season.

Rest of the DL...lets just say I'd definately let Wynn play the LE. Daniels is pretty awful against the run too. Still a good pass rusher though.

If we can get the Daniels of late 2005, I would be estastic

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by EARTHQUAKE2689

If we can get the Daniels of late 2005, I would be estastic

That's pretty much what Carter is.

Except without the risk of 2006 Phillip Daniels next season.

[jsarno]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

I don't think his weight matters. 255 or 280, a pure pass rusher who works hard to avoid the tackles instead of beat them is toast against the run.

If this helps him be a more efficient pass rusher, I guarentee you he's no worse off at stopping the run than he was last year.

That's not exactly a vote of confidence, but I'm confident that we see significant improvement out of Carter this season.

Rest of the DL...lets just say I'd definately let Wynn play the LE. Daniels is pretty awful against the run too. Still a good pass rusher though.

I do think weight matters, especially when you're going up against the best tackles in the league. Why do you think Bruce Smith and Reggie White, and really any good DE does / did so well? Cause they have the size with the athleticism. He can be as quick as he wants, but if he hits a wall, that wall is knocking him down instead of him knocking the wall down.
I hope you're right about Carter, I'd love to see us actually have a pass rush for a change.