Could Thrash Become #2 WR

[jsarno]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Why does it matter who plays the No. 2 receiver?

Cause if we have someone with the talent level as Thrash at #2, we are in deep poo. That's why it matters. According to the stats I already provided for you, Thrash is accustomed to getting 13-17 catches a season and barely reaching 200 yards, if you think that's a #2, then this argument will go no where. So I will say it again, if thrash is our #2, our season is over.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by jsarno

Cause if we have someone with the talent level as Thrash at #2, we are in deep poo. That's why it matters. According to the stats I already provided for you, Thrash is accustomed to getting 13-17 catches a season and barely reaching 200 yards, if you think that's a #2, then this argument will go no where. So I will say it again, if thrash is our #2, our season is over.

Accustomed? What, is Thrash going to break down into particle matter the moment he hits 20 catches?

Please explain why it matters that Thrash didn't have a lot of playing time in the past.

By your argument, we are already screwed because Lloyd and Randle El aren't very good. Should we just forfeit the season now?

I don't disagree with you often, jsarno, but in this case, I couldn't disagree more. Please excuse my consistently incorrect use of punctuation;?!."

[jsarno]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Accustomed? What, is Thrash going to break down into particle matter the moment he hits 20 catches?

Please explain why it matters that Thrash didn't have a lot of playing time in the past?

By your argument, we are already screwed because Lloyd and Randle El aren't very good. Should we just forfeit the season now?

I don't disagree with you often, jsarno, but in this case, I couldn't disagree more.

How about this, Thrash doesn't have the talent to be a #2.
If Lloyd and ARE play like they did last season, then yes, we will be in just as much trouble, but I don't see that happening. Lloyd is going to break out, and ARE will be a good playmaker.
Why is it everyone annoints Thrash? The man has never done anything significant, yet we think he can be a valuable #2???? That doesn't make any sense at all.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by jsarno

How about this, Thrash doesn't have the talent to be a #2.
If Lloyd and ARE play like they did last season, then yes, we will be in just as much trouble, but I don't see that happening. Lloyd is going to break out, and ARE will be a good playmaker.
Why is it everyone annoints Thrash? The man has never done anything significant, yet we think he can be a valuable #2???? That doesn't make any sense at all.

Alright, I see your point, but see my above post. Thrash is the number 2 if he's more talented than Lloyd and Randle El.

How have you reached your conclusion that he's worse? Conjecture based on age? Because it certainly wasn't on receiver effeciency in any of the last Lloyd's career.

And much more significantly, how can this possibly be important enough to determine anything, much less the outcome of the season?

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Alright, I see your point, but see my above post. Thrash is the number 2 if he's more talented than Lloyd and Randle El.

How have you reached your conclusion that he's worse? Conjecture based on age? Because it certainly wasn't on receiver effeciency in any of the last Lloyd's career.

And much more significantly, how can this possibly be important enough to determine anything, much less the outcome of the season?

He isn't more talented than either Randle El or Lloyd but he has been more consistent and realiable over his career than the other two.

[jsarno]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Alright, I see your point, but see my above post. Thrash is the number 2 if he's more talented than Lloyd and Randle El.

How have you reached your conclusion that he's worse? Conjecture based on age? Because it certainly wasn't on receiver effeciency in any of the last Lloyd's career.

And much more significantly, how can this possibly be important enough to determine anything, much less the outcome of the season?

Because I really feel we need a better than average passing attack this year to be a good team.

About him being worse than Lloyd or ARE, both of those guys are more gifted and talented. Sure Thrash will work hard, but he doesn't have the speed or athleticism to be what we need out of a #2 WR.
I honestly feel Thrash is a nothing player on our team. We can easily replace him and his production. I like the guy, he has heart, so I have no problem keeping him, but we need special production out of the #2 spot, and Thrash can't and won't fill that bill for us.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by jsarno

Because I really feel we need a better than average passing attack this year to be a good team.

About him being worse than Lloyd or ARE, both of those guys are more gifted and talented. Sure Thrash will work hard, but he doesn't have the speed or athleticism to be what we need out of a #2 WR.
I honestly feel Thrash is a nothing player on our team. We can easily replace him and his production. I like the guy, he has heart, so I have no problem keeping him, but we need special production out of the #2 spot, and Thrash can't and won't fill that bill for us.

Jason Campbell=significant. Moss=significant. Cooley=significant. Assuming health of three above guys, only an offensive line disaster regression could possibly stop us from having an above average passing attack. Who the second receiver is=relatively insignificant. There's no one we could play in that position that would give us a bad passing attack. Which is why I felt your initial Thrash comment was way, way, off. It's all cool though, I'm glad you throughly explained your thinking. Not many people do that anymore.

At least based on history, Thrash is the second best player on our roster at the WR position. Lloyd and Randle El should take baby steps foward by virtue of experience, but if either of them was going to be great, it would have happened by last year.

[jsarno]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Jason Campbell=significant. Moss=significant. Cooley=significant. Assuming health of three above guys, only an offensive line disaster regression could possibly stop us from having an above average passing attack. Who the second receiver is=relatively insignificant. There's no one we could play in that position that would give us a bad passing attack. Which is why I felt your initial Thrash comment was way, way, off. It's all cool though, I'm glad you throughly explained your thinking. Not many people do that anymore.

At least based on history, Thrash is the second best player on our roster at the WR position. Lloyd and Randle El should take baby steps foward by virtue of experience, but if either of them was going to be great, it would have happened by last year.

I disagree that the 2nd WR is insignificant, and here is why. Without that #2 to take pressure off the #1, the offense needs to rely on the running game much more, and it's much harder to win games. Yes, it can be done, but you rely too heavily on other areas. We need an efficient offense. That requires a good #2 WR, and I just don't think Thrash is the guy.
I really feel Lloyd will have a breakout season. The guy has a ton of talent, but you're right, he's an ass. So it's hard to get on board with him. I just really see a 50+ rec and 800+ yard performance out of Lloyd is Campbell is worth his salt.