Mark"stinky"Schlerth needs to be jolly stomped

[70Chip]

I don't get the fascination with the Eagles. They are yesterday's news. I can understand making a case for Dallas, but Philly is so obviously on the brink of a total collapse that it boggles the mind to see them ranked so highly.

Jim Johnson is a great defensive mind, but everyone has their limits. They will give up big yards this year. Reid is pre-occupied and embarrassed and McNabb will continue to have a completion percentage in the 50s. I can't wait for the Pam Oliver interview though.

As for Stink, he considers himself a Bronco. Good for him. He is dead to me. He has apparently taken Salisbury as his mentor and the results are predictable: hideously bad television. The Nascar coverage rules, though.

[#56fanatic]

Originally Posted by 70Chip

I don't get the fascination with the Eagles. They are yesterday's news. I can understand making a case for Dallas, but Philly is so obviously on the brink of a total collapse that it boggles the mind to see them ranked so highly.

Jim Johnson is a great defensive mind, but everyone has their limits. They will give up big yards this year. Reid is pre-occupied and embarrassed and McNabb will continue to have a completion percentage in the 50s. I can't wait for the Pam Oliver interview though.

As for Stink, he considers himself a Bronco. Good for him. He is dead to me. He has apparently taken Salisbury as his mentor and the results are predictable: hideously bad television. The Nascar coverage rules, though.

dont get the fascination of the Eagles? yesterdays news? are you watching football?? 4 straight NFC championships, 1 superbowl appearance, they have key people go down(McNabb, westbrook, TO(in the superbowl year) kerse, trotter and yet they still go deep in the playoffs.

Jim Johnson consistantly has a top notch D that forces turnovers and gets points off of those turnovers. McNabb prior to being hurt last season and previous was having pretty damn good years and has multiple pro bowls under his belt.

As far as who he considers himself to be, so what! he was a Bronco last, played there longer(i think) won a couple of bowls there i believe, so why not. do you think Champ would want to be remembered as a Skin or Bronco?

[70Chip]

Originally Posted by #56fanatic

dont get the fascination of the Eagles? yesterdays news? are you watching football?? 4 straight NFC championships, 1 superbowl appearance, they have key people go down(McNabb, westbrook, TO(in the superbowl year) kerse, trotter and yet they still go deep in the playoffs.

Jim Johnson consistantly has a top notch D that forces turnovers and gets points off of those turnovers. McNabb prior to being hurt last season and previous was having pretty damn good years and has multiple pro bowls under his belt.

As far as who he considers himself to be, so what! he was a Bronco last, played there longer(i think) won a couple of bowls there i believe, so why not. do you think Champ would want to be remembered as a Skin or Bronco?

I agree. So what. Like I said, he's dead to me.

As for the Eagles, I sincerely believe they are at the end of the line. Good coaches can stitch to gether a few wins with inferior players for a while, but not forever. As for McNabb, the fact that Jeff Garcia was able to perform better than him in the offense last year is indicative of how average he actually is. All the talk was of his brilliant resurgence and yet his completion percentage was 54% - the same as Campbell's. Also, Trotter going down any time in the last four years would be the best thing that could happen to a defense. He was a liability for them 75% of the time.

They've had multiple opportunities to win the big games and they always fail because they aren't good enough. McNabb isn't good enough. When they crash, they will crash in a big way and I say it's this year.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by 70Chip

I agree. So what. Like I said, he's dead to me.

As for the Eagles, I sincerely believe they are at the end of the line. Good coaches can stitch to gether a few wins with inferior players for a while, but not forever. As for McNabb, the fact that Jeff Garcia was able to perform better than him in the offense last year is indicative of how average he actually is. All the talk was of his brilliant resurgence and yet his completion percentage was 54% - the same as Campbell's. Also, Trotter going down any time in the last four years would be the best thing that could happen to a defense. He was a liability for them 75% of the time.

They've had multiple opportunities to win the big games and they always fail because they aren't good enough. McNabb isn't good enough. When they crash, they will crash in a big way and I say it's this year.

I agree with you on McNabb:overrated due to great help from his receivers (evidenced by insanely high YAC the last three years), but even with all the Westbrook in the world, he should still get some credit for always finding the guy in space. After all, that is the same pro-Brunell argument that I firmly believe applies to all players: although consistent YAC is mostly the duty of the WR, some QBs (like Brunell and McNabb among others) are inherently better at getting the ball into open space. However, I think when push comes to shove, I can name 10 better passers in the NFL than McNabb.

The projections rate the Eagles passing game out really high, and I believe that will hurt them this year. That defense is no where near what it once was, and the passing game is easy to overrate. With that said, they are still the team to beat in the NFC and Westbrook is the best football player (at any position) in the NFC.

We are not a better team than the Eagles right now. There is no question. Luckily for us, the crowned NFC East champion is not measured by the best team. It's measured by wins. So if we can get one more win than the guys up the road, we win the division.

[70Chip]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

I agree with you on McNabb:overrated due to great help from his receivers (evidenced by insanely high YAC the last three years), but even with all the Westbrook in the world, he should still get some credit for always finding the guy in space. After all, that is the same pro-Brunell argument that I firmly believe applies to all players: although consistent YAC is mostly the duty of the WR, some QBs (like Brunell and McNabb among others) are inherently better at getting the ball into open space. However, I think when push comes to shove, I can name 10 better passers in the NFL than McNabb.

The projections rate the Eagles passing game out really high, and I believe that will hurt them this year. That defense is no where near what it once was, and the passing game is easy to overrate. With that said, they are still the team to beat in the NFC and Westbrook is the best football player (at any position) in the NFC.

We are not a better team than the Eagles right now. There is no question. Luckily for us, the crowned NFC East champion is not measured by the best team. It's measured by wins. So if we can get one more win than the guys up the road, we win the division.

Westbrooke is fantastic. No argument there.

In watching them a couple times this year, though, it is difficult for me to figure out how, J.J., as brilliant as he is, is going to be able to stop the run. I just don't see it. And I think a team that can't stop the run is a team that can't win.

It seems like there would be one person in the press willing to go out on a limb and say, you know what the Eagles have lost something here. It's lame to say "But the Eagles have done this and that for so long." Then just show us last years standings. Don't pretend you're making a prediction when you're just recapping last year. It's a little too safe.

Take the case of N.O. They're all behind the Saints this year. A year too late. I agree, the Saints are a good club, but we already know that. I want someone to tell me who this years Saints are. The fact is they have no idea. Just like they have no idea that the Eagles are going to lose this season.

Also, I think Phillys YAC yards are high because of all the screens. Imagine Donovan's completion % if he were in an offense that isn't based almost entirely around screen passes.

[#56fanatic]

Originally Posted by 70Chip

I agree. So what. Like I said, he's dead to me.

As for the Eagles, I sincerely believe they are at the end of the line. Good coaches can stitch to gether a few wins with inferior players for a while, but not forever. As for McNabb, the fact that Jeff Garcia was able to perform better than him in the offense last year is indicative of how average he actually is. All the talk was of his brilliant resurgence and yet his completion percentage was 54% - the same as Campbell's. Also, Trotter going down any time in the last four years would be the best thing that could happen to a defense. He was a liability for them 75% of the time.

They've had multiple opportunities to win the big games and they always fail because they aren't good enough. McNabb isn't good enough. When they crash, they will crash in a big way and I say it's this year.

The Eagles have been one of the best teams in the NFC for how many years?? out of anyone in our division they deserve the most respect and most props and hype before the season. They have won the division how many years in a row, nfc champs how many years in a row. to say they are not any good is just homerish. how anyone can say the Eagles are down and out is beyond me. they have not done anything to suggest that. put down the bugandy shades dude and look at it clearly.

[70Chip]

Originally Posted by #56fanatic

The Eagles have been one of the best teams in the NFC for how many years?? out of anyone in our division they deserve the most respect and most props and hype before the season. They have won the division how many years in a row, nfc champs how many years in a row. to say they are not any good is just homerish. how anyone can say the Eagles are down and out is beyond me. they have not done anything to suggest that. put down the bugandy shades dude and look at it clearly.

I'll look at it however I want. They've won the division exactly one years in a row. The Eagles will stop winning at some point. I say its this year. And don't call me dude.

[irish]

Originally Posted by #56fanatic

dont get the fascination of the Eagles? yesterdays news? are you watching football?? 4 straight NFC championships, 1 superbowl appearance, they have key people go down(McNabb, westbrook, TO(in the superbowl year) kerse, trotter and yet they still go deep in the playoffs.

Jim Johnson consistantly has a top notch D that forces turnovers and gets points off of those turnovers. McNabb prior to being hurt last season and previous was having pretty damn good years and has multiple pro bowls under his belt.

As far as who he considers himself to be, so what! he was a Bronco last, played there longer(i think) won a couple of bowls there i believe, so why not. do you think Champ would want to be remembered as a Skin or Bronco?

I agree the Eagles have been doing great lately while the Skins have been terrible for 10+ years. There is no reason for anyone to be high on the skins until they actually do something. Have the skins put pieces in place, yes. However the skins never seem to figure out how to get it done while the Eagles keep winning titles and going deep into the playoffs. When the skins start showing they are a real contender rather than an offseason wonder then they will get support until then dont expect more than what is being said.

[offiss]

I have never had much regard for Schlerths football knowledge, especially when he jumps on the Wade Phillips band wagon, since when is wade a coaching icon? The boy's lost one of the all time great coaches, replaced him with a guy who is nothing more than a coordinator and they are supposed to be better this year? I don't see it.

As for our analogy, what has Gibbs done the past 3 years to warrant the belief that we are playoff bound? We have issues on the O-line, and a first full year starting QB with I might add a real problem if he gets injured for any significant time this season for lack of a backup who can win games.

The only thing I believe we can hang our hats on this up coming season is our defense, I wouldn't be surprised to see a repeat of the 2005 season when the defense carried this team to the playoffs and hid a lot of our lack offensive ability. Yes we are more talented on offense this year but will it really make a big difference? Gibbs has put all his eggs in 1 basket in Campbell, if he's not the goods we are a last place team.

[12thMan]

Originally Posted by offiss

As for our analogy, what has Gibbs done the past 3 years to warrant the belief that we are playoff bound? We have issues on the O-line, and a first full year starting QB with I might add a real problem if he gets injured for any significant time this season for lack of a backup who can win games.

The only thing I believe we can hang our hats on this up coming season is our defense, I wouldn't be surprised to see a repeat of the 2005 season when the defense carried this team to the playoffs and hid a lot of our lack offensive ability. Yes we are more talented on offense this year but will it really make a big difference? Gibbs has put all his eggs in 1 basket in Campbell, if he's not the goods we are a last place team.

I think whether we have legitimate issues on the offensive line really remains to be seen. Unless Chris Samuels has completely fallen apart and Pete Kendall is a bust, then I would agree. But that scenerio doesn't exist. Concern, yes. Issues, no. We'll be fine on the offensive line.

Certainly Gibbs is putting all of his eggs in one basket with Campbell, but what coach isn't with their first string quarterback? Same could be said of Indy, the Pats, Bengals, ummm Dallas....and the list goes on and on. Hell, Cleveland is flipping coins from one week to the next to figure out who their quarterback is! Talk about finishing last, now that's a classic example.

If we live or die with Jason Campbell, I'm fine with that. As long as we do more living than dying.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by 12thMan

I think whether we have legitimate issues on the offensive line really remains to be seen. Unless Chris Samuels has completely fallen apart and Pete Kendall is a bust, then I would agree. But that scenerio doesn't exist. Concern, yes. Issues, no. We'll be fine on the offensive line.

Certainly Gibbs is putting all of his eggs in one basket with Campbell, but what coach isn't with their first string quarterback? Same could be said of Indy, the Pats, Bengals, ummm Dallas....and the list goes on and on. Hell, Cleveland is flipping coins from one week to the next to figure out who their quarterback is! Talk about finishing last, now that's a classic example.

If we live or die with Jason Campbell, I'm fine with that. As long as we do more living than dying.

Seriously, isn't this exactly what we've wanted since the beginning of last season?? The switch and full commitment to the future in Jason Campbell??!! Now it's hear and people are still griping. I don't get it.

[offiss]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Seriously, isn't this exactly what we've wanted since the beginning of last season?? The switch and full commitment to the future in Jason Campbell??!! Now it's hear and people are still griping. I don't get it.

It's about not having anything behind Campbell, not every teams season is shot if the starter goes down, especially on a team with a coach who doesn't ask the QB to win the game just don't lose it, we know that doesn't work from watching Brunell for 3 years, Campbell is going to have to win games but not in the manor of a Peyton Manning etc. but he will have to make play's which Brunell has proven he can't. We have no one who can play a legitimate backup role, we should already have a young, up and coming QB who is learning this system, not a has been, and a never was. If Campbell goes down it's over, and we don't know even if he stays healthy if he has what it takes to win in the NFL? I believe everyone is elated that Brunell is on the bench and Campbell is starting but we have no contingency plan if he goes down. Gibbs IMO has failed miserably on building depth at the most important position on the field, the QB.

[birdz4gibbs]

Originally Posted by 70Chip

I don't get the fascination with the Eagles. They are yesterday's news. I can understand making a case for Dallas, but Philly is so obviously on the brink of a total collapse that it boggles the mind to see them ranked so highly.

Jim Johnson is a great defensive mind, but everyone has their limits. They will give up big yards this year. Reid is pre-occupied and embarrassed and McNabb will continue to have a completion percentage in the 50s. I can't wait for the Pam Oliver interview though.

As for Stink, he considers himself a Bronco. Good for him. He is dead to me. He has apparently taken Salisbury as his mentor and the results are predictable: hideously bad television. The Nascar coverage rules, though.

i can honestly say that the espn coverage of the races stinks as well.
for stink he can keep stinking it up with those so called experts at espn.,i mean it really says alot to be sean,s right hand man,lol.

i,m just glad he treats his former bronco coach like a god ......

[Dlyne8r]

Originally Posted by 70Chip

I don't get the fascination with the Eagles. They are yesterday's news. I can understand making a case for Dallas, but Philly is so obviously on the brink of a total collapse that it boggles the mind to see them ranked so highly.

Jim Johnson is a great defensive mind, but everyone has their limits. They will give up big yards this year. Reid is pre-occupied and embarrassed and McNabb will continue to have a completion percentage in the 50s. I can't wait for the Pam Oliver interview though.

As for Stink, he considers himself a Bronco. Good for him. He is dead to me. He has apparently taken Salisbury as his mentor and the results are predictable: hideously bad television. The Nascar coverage rules, though.

Amen to that comment. The HD broadcast is friggin' increadible! Sucks that Joe Gibbs teams will be driving Toyotas though. Sorry, this post belongs somewhere NASCAR related...Anyway, I must agree with some others that the Redskins simply have not done enough to garner a glowing review, much less a positive prediction. Yes, they've made strides this off-season, but they've done this before and fallen flat. Until they start blowing people off the ball (sorry Senator Craig), they'll never get respect.

[70Chip]

Originally Posted by Dlyne8r

Amen to that comment. The HD broadcast is friggin' increadible! Sucks that Joe Gibbs teams will be driving Toyotas though. Sorry, this post belongs somewhere NASCAR related...Anyway, I must agree with some others that the Redskins simply have not done enough to garner a glowing review, much less a positive prediction. Yes, they've made strides this off-season, but they've done this before and fallen flat. Until they start blowing people off the ball (sorry Senator Craig), they'll never get respect.

Also, while we're giving props to ESPN, the duece had an awesome 30 minute documentary on last night about Hank Williams Jr. Bravo! They gave the inside scoop on everything you need to know about Hank Jr.'s long-standing relationship with Monday Night Football. For instance, we learn that Hank was originally recruited to do the opening after a phone call from one of the ABC producers to Hank's agent! You can't make that stuff up. I haven't seen such a powerful documentary since The Civil War first premiered on PBS. Can anybody say "Cable Ace Award"?.