The week 1 "what the hell?" thread

[Cowell]

No, once you kick a field goal your possession is over.

[hooskins]

Originally Posted by 724Skinsfan

1) I agree about Betts. He scares me sometimes.
2) The timeout was not that bad. When you're 3rd and 7, you need to make sure everyone knows what they're supposed to be doing. Maybe someone noticed that a player was out of position. If they didn't convert then the Miami D gets plenty of time to rest due to change of possession. 3) I liked the call to go ahead and kick. If they miss, I believe they still have 3 other chances. Why risk a backfield sack, fumble or tackle for loss? If Suisham can't hit a 39 yarder with the game on the line Week 1 is a good time to find out instead of Week 16.

We have 3 chances?? Can someone else confirm this?

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by hooskins

We have 3 chances?? Can someone else confirm this?

We don't get another chance if he misses the kick. But if it's a botched snap or the hold is bad, or a penalty. Then it just becomes 2nd down.

[724Skinsfan]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

We don't get another chance if he misses the kick. But if it's a botched snap or the hold is bad, or a penalty. Then it just becomes 2nd down.

Or blocked and recovered behind the line of scrimmage, but yeah I was mistaken about getting another try after a missed field goals. Was that ever a rule? I'm still satisfied with going ahead and kicking it rather chance a turnover.

[Cowell]

As I said before, once you kick it or punt it, regardless of the down your possession is up.

[jsarno]

Originally Posted by 724Skinsfan

1) I agree about Betts. He scares me sometimes.

I like the guy, but don't take a chance of fumbling late in the 4th.

2) The timeout was not that bad. When you're 3rd and 7, you need to make sure everyone knows what they're supposed to be doing. Maybe someone noticed that a player was out of position. If they didn't convert then the Miami D gets plenty of time to rest due to change of possession.

They called it almost immediately after the previous play, so it wasn't due to someone out of position. It was for to make sure everyone was on the same page, but it didn't work at all. Instead, it gave the Dolphins a better way to rest up to stop us and get on their same page.

3) I liked the call to go ahead and kick. If they miss, I believe they still have 3 other chances. Why risk a backfield sack, fumble or tackle for loss? If Suisham can't hit a 39 yarder with the game on the line Week 1 is a good time to find out instead of Week 16.

Umm, no...once you kick, the play is over no matter what the result. The only way we would have another "shot" at it is if it was a botched snap and we fell on it, but once the kicker touches his foot to the ball, there is no going back, and no more chances. Don't know where you got that, but you do not get 3 chances at it.
Portis was running through their best run defense, he could have easily gotten at least 5-7 more yards.
While I do agree, I want to know if Suisham can handle the pressure, you don't waste 3 downs of probably getting more yardage when your kicker has proven NOTHING.

[JDALY27]

What the hell J. Campbell?

He didn't get much help from Moss who was killing drives with those drops but Campbell was not sharp. He sailed a bunch of balls and missed open receivers. The first pass of the season a bad read and the Skins are very very lucky to have won that game.

What the hell Defense?

You guys looked awesome and we just need to catch those picks! Rocky looked absolutely unreal and its hard for me to beleive that he shouldn't have started last year.

With the defense much improved I'm feeling good about the year. Our offense will come along and 400 yards of total offense aint that shabby. Especially when you consider the drops and missed passes.......

[DynamiteRave]

Someone (and no it wasn't me) said at halftime we should put Collins in the game.

What the hell?

[Darrell_Green_28]

i think that if its a bad snap or something like that the holder can fall on it or attempt a fake for the first down or touchdown and then try another fg next play if they want. as long as the FG is not ACTUALLY attempted. am i right ?

[Darrell_Green_28]

or possibly get another PI, Holding, false start or some other penalty or even a loss of ydg.

[SmootSmack]

Kind of reminds me of all the confusion from that Packers game back in 2004 when Portis had that great TD, only to be called back on a Thrash illegal motion.

[Darrell_Green_28]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Kind of reminds me of all the confusion from that Packers game back in 2004 when Portis had that great TD, only to be called back on a Thrash illegal motion.

yeah i remember that , if im not mistaking Thrash was still in motion, which by rule was legal, they said he went forward or something

[Darrell_Green_28]

in which #8 After a shift or huddle all players on offensive team must come to an absolute stop for at least one second with no movement of hands, feet, head, or swaying of body.

which could apply here would have to look at replay

[drew54]

What the hell, why haven't we been doing this thread every week for the past 5 years.

[jsarno]

what the hell...why was Smoot left on the field for almost every defensive play?