Just plain ugly

[love them hogs]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Look at my post with the rules link in the "what the hell" thread

This was the first time I have ever looked something up and prepared to reply with a link to back up my stance and you beat me to it Smootsmack , Damn you.That is even the exact same link I was going to provide.Oh well, It doesnt say anything about not being allowed move multiple players before the snap even if they have already set.So I guess it just came down to the fact that the refs thought that Yoders movement was too jerkey (is that a word?).

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by love them hogs

This was the first time I have ever looked something up and prepared to reply with a link to back up my stance and you beat me to it Smootsmack , Damn you.That is even the exact same link I was going to provide.Oh well, It doesnt say anything about not being allowed move multiple players before the snap even if they have already set.So I guess it just came down to the fact that the refs thought that Yoders movement was too jerkey (is that a word?).

But what about this?

"All players of offensive team must be stationary at snap, except one back who may be in motion parallel to scrimmage line or backward (not forward)."

[love them hogs]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

But what about this?

"All players of offensive team must be stationary at snap, except one back who may be in motion parallel to scrimmage line or backward (not forward)."

The ball had not been snapped when the refs threw the flag.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by love them hogs

The ball had not been snapped when the refs threw the flag.

So you're saying that people can move all over the place until the center actually snaps the ball? I think, actually, maybe you're right.

[jsarno]

Originally Posted by love them hogs

The ball had not been snapped when the refs threw the flag.

Basically, that rule is saying only 1 person can move before the snap. You're focusing on the word snap, but it's telling you the exception to the rule, which is that only 1 person can be in motion. Just like I said before.

[love them hogs]

Originally Posted by jsarno

Basically, that rule is saying only 1 person can move before the snap. You're focusing on the word snap, but it's telling you the exception to the rule, which is that only 1 person can be in motion. Just like I said before.

what rule exactly says that?I didnt see that anywhere.

[jsarno]

Originally Posted by love them hogs

what rule exactly says that?I didnt see that anywhere.

here it is again:
NFL Rules Digest: Position of Players at Snap

#7- All players of offensive team must be stationary at snap, except one back who may be in motion parallel to scrimmage line or backward (not forward).

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by jsarno

Basically, that rule is saying only 1 person can move before the snap. You're focusing on the word snap, but it's telling you the exception to the rule, which is that only 1 person can be in motion. Just like I said before.

Ironically, the Cowboys just got penalized for "two men moving at the same time"

So maybe it's that multiple players can move before the snap, but they can't have more than one moving at the same time?

[jsarno]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Ironically, the Cowboys just got penalized for "two men moving at the same time"

So maybe it's that multiple players can move before the snap, but they can't have more than one moving at the same time?

I was just going to post that. You can't have more than one moving at the same time after they set.

[love them hogs]

That means only one person can be moving at the snap of the ball.Even rule numer eight suggest that multiple players can move before the snap by saying that all players must come to an absolute stop for one second.

[jsarno]

Originally Posted by love them hogs

That means only one person can be moving at the snap of the ball.Even rule numer eight suggest that multiple players can move before the snap by saying that all players must come to an absolute stop for one second.

Have you not watched any football over the years? (not trying to be sarcastic, just curious) It is well known that you can not have 2 people in motion at the same time.

[love them hogs]

Rule three , section thirtey

A shift is the action of two or more offensive players who (prior to a snap), After having assumed a set position, simultaneously change the position of thier feet by pivoting to or assuming a new set position with either one foot or both feet.

Its all right there.

[jsarno]

Originally Posted by love them hogs

Rule three , section thirtey

A shift is the action of two or more offensive players who (prior to a snap), After having assumed a set position, simultaneously change the position of thier feet by pivoting to or assuming a new set position with either one foot or both feet.

Its all right there.

No it's not...read it again..."change the position of their feet", not move from their set position to another position on the other side of the field. So they are in the same relative area, but went into a 3 point stance, or shifted slightly to the left or something of that nature.
It does not say anything about running to a new position.
And that seems like it would be a false start to me.

[Crazyhorse1]

Fletcher and Rocky looked terrific today. Anybody notice? When was the last time we had 2 linebackers make 23 tackles between them? ARE was fabulous. Who was named player of the game? I missed it.

[Darrell_Green_28]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Ironically, the Cowboys just got penalized for "two men moving at the same time"

So maybe it's that multiple players can move before the snap, but they can't have more than one moving at the same time?

Or maybe they saw what happened to us earlier and said , We better call it and if its wrong we can just say thats the way they called in the skins/phins game earlier. just so they are consistant