Redskins vs. Eagles predictions

[ncskinsfanec]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

See, I laugh at this. I hate the Eagles just as much as anyone. But to say McNabb is overrated is simply ridicules.

We all have our opinions. I think McNabb is about the most overrated QB of the last ten years. I mean, what game can you remember, when the Eagles really needed him, did McNabb show up and play brilliant?

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by ncskinsfanec

We all have our opinions. I think McNabb is about the most overrated QB of the last ten years. I mean, what game can you remember, when the Eagles really needed him, did McNabb show up and play brilliant?

Let's see. If Jason Campbell got us to three straight NFC Championship games, plus a Super Bowl would you be saying the same thing about him? I doubt it. Wasn't Mcnabb having a great year ( w/out TO ) last year before he got hurt? Doesn't McNabb have 153 TD's and 73 Ints and completes almost 60% of his passes? Plus he has great mobility that breaks the defense? C'mon. I know we all hate the Eagles but McNabb is a very very good QB.

[70Chip]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Let's see. If Jason Campbell got us to three straight NFC Championship games, plus a Super Bowl would you be saying the same thing about him? I doubt it. Wasn't Mcnabb having a great year ( w/out TO ) last year before he got hurt? Doesn't McNabb have 153 TD's and 73 Ints and completes almost 60% of his passes? Plus he has great mobility that breaks the defense? C'mon. I know we all hate the Eagles but McNabb is a very very good QB.

Almost 60% is not elite in a west coast offense. He completed 54% before he got hurt again last year. If Jason Campbell lost all those big games, I think I, and many others, would be saying, "Jason Campbell can't win the big game." I don't understand the devotion of Redskins fans for this guy. The Eagles fans watch him every week and they don't feel this way about him. Donovan is a good quarterback who has been dinged up for the last three years. He and the offense he plays in lean heavily on the screen pass which pads his stats and doesn't require him to do much. He used to make a lot of plays with legs, now he sometimes makes plays with his arm. He's not now what he once was, and what he once was was not what some people think it was. I don't understand why Redskins fans have such an emotional attachment to a Philadelphia Eagle.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by 70Chip

Almost 60% is not elite in a west coast offense. He completed 54% before he got hurt again last year. If Jason Campbell lost all those big games, I think I, and many others, would be saying, "Jason Campbell can't win the big game." I don't understand the devotion of Redskins fans for this guy. The Eagles fans watch him every week and they don't feel this way about him. Donovan is a good quarterback who has been dinged up for the last three years. He and the offense he plays in lean heavily on the screen pass which pads his stats and doesn't require him to do much. He used to make a lot of plays with legs, now he sometimes makes plays with his arm. He's not now what he once was, and what he once was was not what some people think it was. I don't understand why Redskins fans have such an emotional attachment to a Philadelphia Eagle.

This is actually one of the reasons I feel Andy Reid is a top 5 coach...of all time. The perception of McNabb around the league is that he's an unstoppable force of nature, and you just have to hope to contain him. He's beaten tight coverage with his arm enough times to theoretically justify the fear he strikes into opponents. But all this has served to do is allow really simple plays like the screen and draws to work to perfection for Westbrook (a truly great player). So essentially, because people feel that McNabb is elite, defenses play very conservative against him in general, and the west coast works to perfection.

If defenses around the league would treat McNabb like a Roethlisberger or a Hasselbeck, it would allow them to defend some of Philly's bread and butter plays better. Yeah, McNabb would beat you deep every once in awhile (like he does anyway), but ultimately the Eagles offense would be less effective.

And I have to say, when you do a good enough job to distort reality not only in your only locker room, but around the entire league, thats not just good coaching, thats downright exceptional coaching that creates a decisive competitive advantage for your team.

Much more effective than videotaping signals.

Anyway, it's on GW this week to play his own game and not get beaten by Brian Westbrook.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

This is actually one of the reasons I feel Andy Reid is a top 5 coach...of all time. The perception of McNabb around the league is that he's an unstoppable force of nature, and you just have to hope to contain him. He's beaten tight coverage with his arm enough times to theoretically justify the fear he strikes into opponents. But all this has served to do is allow really simple plays like the screen and draws to work to perfection for Westbrook (a truly great player). So essentially, because people feel that McNabb is elite, defenses play very conservative against him in general, and the west coast works to perfection.

If defenses around the league would treat McNabb like a Roethlisberger or a Hasselbeck, it would allow them to defend some of Philly's bread and butter plays better. Yeah, McNabb would beat you deep every once in awhile (like he does anyway), but ultimately the Eagles offense would be less effective.

And I have to say, when you do a good enough job to distort reality not only in your only locker room, but around the entire league, thats not just good coaching, thats downright exceptional coaching that creates a decisive competitive advantage for your team.

Much more effective than videotaping signals.

Anyway, it's on GW this week to play his own game and not get beaten by Brian Westbrook.

Top 5 of all-time with no rings as a head coach?

Wow.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by 70Chip

Almost 60% is not elite in a west coast offense. He completed 54% before he got hurt again last year. If Jason Campbell lost all those big games, I think I, and many others, would be saying, "Jason Campbell can't win the big game." I don't understand the devotion of Redskins fans for this guy. The Eagles fans watch him every week and they don't feel this way about him. Donovan is a good quarterback who has been dinged up for the last three years. He and the offense he plays in lean heavily on the screen pass which pads his stats and doesn't require him to do much. He used to make a lot of plays with legs, now he sometimes makes plays with his arm. He's not now what he once was, and what he once was was not what some people think it was. I don't understand why Redskins fans have such an emotional attachment to a Philadelphia Eagle.

I don't have an emotional attachment. I can just respect a good football player, regardless of what team he plays for. To say screen passes pads his stats is ridicules. Every team in the NFL throws screen passes. Philly throws it downfiled as much as anyone. His play speaks for itself.

[Monkeydad]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Plus he haD great mobility that breaks the defense? C'mon. I know we all hate the Eagles but McNabb WAs a very very good QB.

Fixed your typos.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by Buster

Fixed your typos.

LOL! That was a good one.

[Monkeydad]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

LOL! That was a TRUE one.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by Buster

there u go again.

[Sheriff Gonna Getcha]

Originally Posted by ncskinsfanec

We all have our opinions. I think McNabb is about the most overrated QB of the last ten years. I mean, what game can you remember, when the Eagles really needed him, did McNabb show up and play brilliant?

I cannot agree at all. McNabb has been a fantastic QB for the Eagles and, frankly, I am surprised that a Redskins fan would say otherwise. He's tormented this franchise an awful lot...and we usually have a great defense.

Moreover, name the last time McNabb had ANY HoF-type WR, TE, or RB at his disposal. I like Brian Westbrook as a fantasy player, but the guy has one 1,000 yard rushing season. With the exception of Tom Brady, most top-notch QBs have a Jerry Rice, Emmitt Smith, etc. Not so with McNabb. That man has done more with less than anyone except Tom Brady.