f...gibbs

[juggernaunt]

i agree with the first post. we came out in thew 2nd half protecting the lead. you need to go for the damn kill. we lefty a wouynded animal backed in a corner free to come out swinging and they did. betts in on that 4th dwn dosent matter , this falls on gibbs shoulders he is the head coach with the last say..... he needs to goooooooo

[SFREDSKIN]

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I have a suggestion to all of you who doubt Gibbs. Go root for another team, you guys don't know squat. Bring back Norv or Marty awesome coaches.

[jsarno]

Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

I have a suggestion to all of you who doubt Gibbs. Go root for another team, you guys don't know squat. Bring back Norv or Marty awesome coaches.

Not that I liked either of them, but Marty (for the Skins) does have a better record than Gibbs part 2 for the Skins. Also, Turner had 4 winning seasons out of 7 for the Skins. Gibbs part 2...1 winning season in 3 years. Same amount of post season wins as well...1.

Now, I'm not saying I would rather have either of them over Gibbs, I'm saying we have saunders for a reason, and we need to use him. Gibbs style of play is outdated. While it worked great in the 80's, it's 20 years later and the game has changed significantly and it appears Gibbs is not willing to change with it.

[Sean"Big Hurt"Taylor]

Originally Posted by jsarno

Not that I liked either of them, but Marty (for the Skins) does have a better record than Gibbs part 2 for the Skins. Also, Turner had 4 winning seasons out of 7 for the Skins. Gibbs part 2...1 winning season in 3 years. Same amount of post season wins as well...1.

Now, I'm not saying I would rather have either of them over Gibbs, I'm saying we have saunders for a reason, and we need to use him. Gibbs style of play is outdated. While it worked great in the 80's, it's 20 years later and the game has changed significantly and it appears Gibbs is not willing to change with it.

You are absolutely right about that. Joe Gibbs need to do what Dick Vermil did in St. Louis when he let Martz take over the offense, and what he did in Kansas City when Saunders was at the controls of the offense. Maybe doing the bye week Joe Gibbs will finally let Saunders be the man of the offense so that we can be explosive. This is no exuse for us not to be averaging 25 points a game. No excuse.

[SFREDSKIN]

People forget that we are missing our right side of the offensive line. If you guys noticed Cooley was helping the right side trying to contain Strahan and having a helluva a tough time. Little things like that change the play calling.

[Giantone]

Maybe on this day the Giants just wanted it more,it was a hell of a good game.Relax it's a long season.

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

Originally Posted by Giantone

Maybe on this day the Giants just wanted it more,it was a hell of a good game.Relax it's a long season.

or the skins just didnt want it at all.

[DynamiteRave]

Originally Posted by EARTHQUAKE2689

or the skins just didnt want it at all.

I hope thats not true at all. If I was playing on a 2-0 team more than anything I'd wanna pick up that 3rd win.

[12thMan]

Originally Posted by Giantone

Maybe on this day the Giants just wanted it more,it was a hell of a good game.Relax it's a long season.

Thank you. Plain and simple this isn't a 16-0 team. Geeezzz...we have, what 13 games to get it right.

Skins will be fine. They'll come out of the bye week vs a Detroit team we should be beat.

[FRPLG]

Originally Posted by 12thMan

Thank you. Plain and simple this isn't a 16-0 team. Geeezzz...we have, what 13 games to get it right.

Skins will be fine. They'll come out of the bye week vs a Detroit team we should be beat.

This was a Giants team we should have beat.

[BrunellMVP?]

Originally Posted by FRPLG

This was a Giants team we should have beat.

Yep, and that is what is so frustrating...we can't afford to give away wins...its a shame.

I'm not going to waste more time second guessing, but I DO wish we took more chances down field earlier...the giants had given up 80 points in the first two games...they're secondary is very suspect...I was very surprised we didn't test them more (but mayb that had to do with the "new" right side of the O-line).

on a different point- Dallas is looking good...

[12thMan]

Originally Posted by FRPLG

This was a Giants team we should have beat.

Very true. By the way, I do think the coaching was very questionable at best.

See here's where I agree with you some and I agee with Rob some. It seems our staff, be it Gibbs or Saunders or whomever, can't get a feel for the game. What I'm saying is, we go in at half time and we're humming along pretty good and we have a little swagger, and we don't feed that in the second half.

It's something about the playcalling that "slows us down"...it's not that it's bad, but it doesn't feed the team's energy and attitude. I think that's the thing they have to grasp with this team. Sometimes I feel like Gibbs is forcing a round peg into a square hole with this squad. This is obviously theory on my part and no real facts to support this, but you can't tell me there's no quicker way to make a team play flat than to switch gears on them.

Another thing, Joe Gibbs football....I know what that means by definition, but we don't have Riggo and Jacoby and those guys anymore.

[FRPLG]

Originally Posted by 12thMan

Very true. By the way, I do think the coaching was very questionable at best.

See here's where I agree with you some and I agee with Rob some. It seems our staff, be it Gibbs or Saunders or whomever, can't get a feel for the game. What I'm saying is, we go in at half time and we're humming along pretty good and we have a little swagger, and we don't feed that in the second half.

It's something about the playcalling that "slows us down"...it's not that it's bad, but it doesn't feed the team's energy and attitude. I think that's the thing they have to grasp with this team. Sometimes I feel like Gibbs is forcing a round peg into a square hole with this squad. This is obviously theory on my part, and no real facts to support this, but you can't tell me there's no quicker way to make a team play flat than to switch gears on them.

Another thing, Joe Gibbs football....I know what that means by definition, but we don't have Riggo and Jacoby and those guys anymore.

This is basically how I felt. This is a team we should have dumped 40 points on and in the second half both by execution and coaching we simply let them off the hook. Something tells me that the players would agree that we didn't go for the kill at any point. We seemed content simply let our defense hold on to the game. No seam routes or deep crosses. Nothing. Hand offs coupled with a few dump offs and screens plus some dubious execution killed us. I wont argue execution was good but I'd rather lose by poorly executing solid plays than by screwing up conservative play calling. See in the end if we are more aggressive maybe we can overcome some of the execution issues. Instead we play this keep it close stuff that leaves us no room for error at all.

[TampaDude]

Yeah, it sucks...we should have won this game, but we're still on pace for 10-6...that's all I really expected at the beginning of the season. We'll be fine.

[SFREDSKIN]

I say be patient, the puzzle pieces are in place. Injuries don't help and yes we are short on the DE position, we need someone to go after the QB. Gibbs in second year took this team to the playoffs with an over the hill QB who wore out in Seattle. Last year was a wash, yes I blame Gibbs for sticking with Brunnell a little too long. Campbell is only in his 10th game and shows very promising flashes. Talk to me at the end of the season. You and all the doubters will be kissing his behind. If he has a losing season, I'll still love the man. "Joe Gibbs is the Redskins". If Gibbs never came to Washington we would be just another pathetic franchise. Show some loyalty or go root for the Cowboys, Eagles, Giants, etc.