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[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by jdlea

See, the problem with this is that paints people with too broad a brush. I'm not in the "F"/"Fire" anybody group, however, I am upset about the loss and would like to discuss the reasons why I am upset on the site that I frequent. I said that this team looked like the Norv era Skins because they did yesterday. I agree with your general sentiment, but there seem to be a number of groups within the people who are complaining about the loss. At least a few people think this is an example of why Gibbs can't win and the team won't be good. Others, like myself, believe yesterday was a blip on the radar, but it could have easily been prevented. I don't want anyone fired. I think this team is heading in the right direction and they will continue to improve because Campbell will continue to improve.

I would not have been happy if they won in OT yesterday, I would have been happy about 3-0, but I'd be pissed that it got that far. I think there are some people who take these things to the extremes, but to act like we shouldn't still be talking about the game the day after it occurred is a little unrealistic, especially considering they don't play again for 2 weeks.

Well, I think (and SGG alluded to this) it's perfectly ok to be upset and be critical. And there's been some good discussion here no doubt, if you filter through the b.s. But rational critiques is all we're asking for.

To blame a fumble on playcalling is not rational, to say F Gibbs is not rational, to claim the Patriots have a killer mentality but then not acknowledge their balanced attack against the chargers or how they didn't throw more deep passes than the Redskins yesterday (just completed more) is not rational, to praise the Cowboys for getting TO involved in the offense with short passes but then rip on the Redskins for doing the same with Moss ("dink and dunk" as people like to call it) is not rational.

To completely disregard our two wins this year (including one on the road against a division opponent) and act like there is no hope left is not at all rational. And quite honestly, I wish those people would just go away. The "I have no faith in this team and I'm going to bitch and moan about it after every loss, but when they win I'll just disappear or I'll jump on the bandwagon" act is tired.

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Well, I think (and SGG alluded to this) it's perfectly ok to be upset and be critical. And there's been some good discussion here no doubt, if you filter through the b.s. But rational critiques is all we're asking for.

To blame a fumble on playcalling is not rational, to say F Gibbs is not rational, to claim the Patriots have a killer mentality but then not acknowledge their balanced attack against the chargers or how they didn't throw more deep passes than the Redskins yesterday (just completed more) is not rational, to praise the Cowboys for getting TO involved in the offense with short passes but then rip on the Redskins for doing the same with Moss ("dink and dunk" as people like to call it) is not rational.

To completely disregard our two wins this year (including one on the road against a division opponent) and act like there is no hope left is not at all rational. And quite honestly, I wish those people would just go away. The "I have no faith in this team and I'm going to bitch and moan about it after every loss, but when they win I'll just disappear or I'll jump on the bandwagon" act is tired.

We should have faith after a 2-0 start. Like I said, I think pretty much anyone on this site would have been just fine knowing before week 1 that we would take a 2-1 record into the bye.

A 2-1 start should not cause anyone to start screaming for anyone to be fired. But I simply have to see more production from this offense. All I heard all week after the Philly game was how much JC was growing up right before our eyes, blah blah blah. Yet we barely threw in the 2nd half (unless it was 3rd and long or the very end of the game) against a team that had been victimized by the pass horribly in the first two weeks. 17 points a week ain't gonna cut it. Is it too much to ask for a team to score 3 TDs in a game every once in a while? We have weapons galore on offense and we're paying Saunders more than a lot of head coaches....

[Sheriff Gonna Getcha]

Originally Posted by GMScud

We should have faith after a 2-0 start. Like I said, I think pretty much anyone on this site would have been just fine knowing before week 1 that we would take a 2-1 record into the bye.

A 2-1 start should not cause anyone to start screaming for anyone to be fired. But I simply have to see more production from this offense. All I heard all week after the Philly game was how much JC was growing up right before our eyes, blah blah blah. Yet we barely threw in the 2nd half (unless it was 3rd and long or the very end of the game) against a team that had been victimized by the pass horribly in the first two weeks. 17 points a week ain't gonna cut it. Is it too much to ask for a team to score 3 TDs in a game every once in a while? We have weapons galore on offense and we're paying Saunders more than a lot of head coaches....

I agree 100%. As I stated above, however, I think there is definately cause for optimism. The offense is nowhere near as consistent as we'd like it to be, but it's clear that JC gives us a playmaking ability that we haven't seen at QB in decades. Whether he will become a consistent playmaker is another question, but when JC is in the game I feel like we have a chance to do just about anything and that we are almost always in the game. I haven't seen so many deep balls (whether completed or not) in years and I'm psyched to see what this offense will do once JC gets more experience.