F...Ignorant, Panic-Stricken "Fans"

[MTK]

Originally Posted by jsarno

You know, what makes this site great is that there are all different opinions and views. Why do you insist on trying to control people on those opinions? Sure I don't want to hear "this team sucks, we're going downhill" either, but they are venting cause they are pissed. So maybe those of you that get extremely pissed should take a step back and realize it's emotion rather than get annoyed and try to make others conform to your way of thinking.
Not everyone wants to drink the Gibbs kool-aid. That's fine. Like it or not people have differences of opinions.
So why don't WE ALL calm down and get back to focusing on why we are here, loving our Skins instead of pointing fingers at one another.

Let's set one thing straight, we're not trying to control opinions or make anyone drink the kool-aid (anyone else really hate that dumb expression?).

But consider this, what sort of meaningful value do these insane, pissed off, knee-jerk, emotionally laced tirades add to the site in your opinion?

[jsarno]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Let's set one thing straight, we're not trying to control opinions or make anyone drink the kool-aid (anyone else really hate that dumb expression?).

But consider this, what sort of meaningful value do these insane, pissed off, knee-jerk, emotionally laced tirades add to the site in your opinion?

There are some here that indeed drink that kool aid, then push their kool aid on others. It's OK...just pointing out the irony.
Like GMan said, sometimes people find solice in the fact that there are others that feel the way they do.
So why not let others vent? Like I said, I don't like the "this team is doomed" comments as much as you do (and for the record I did not say those things like SS implied I did) but let's not get any dilusions that the knee jerk reactions are solely by those that are predicting doom. It's also from those complaining about those same people.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by jsarno

There are some here that indeed drink that kool aid, then push their kool aid on others. It's OK...just pointing out the irony.
Like GMan said, sometimes people find solice in the fact that there are others that feel the way they do.
So why not let others vent? Like I said, I don't like the "this team is doomed" comments as much as you do (and for the record I did not say those things like SS implied I did) but let's not get any dilusions that the knee jerk reactions are solely by those that are predicting doom. It's also from those complaining about those same people.

Really? News to me. Care to name some names? Shoot me a PM if you want.

The problem is we don't need a bunch of different threads all about playcalling, and a bunch of threads all titled something like "what happened?".

People are free to vent but I think we just need to reel it in a bit at times and check our emotions at the door.

After a win you don't see a bunch of threads crowing about how the game was the best win ever, the playcalling ruled, or Gibbs should be re-signed to a lifetime contract. So why do we have to deal with the exact opposite?

Let's try to maintain some middle ground. Venting when taken to an extreme doesn't add much value to the site in my opinion.

[jsarno]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Really? News to me. Care to name some names? Shoot me a PM if you want.

The problem is we don't need a bunch of different threads all about playcalling, and a bunch of threads all titled something like "what happened?".

People are free to vent but I think we just need to reel it in a bit at times and check our emotions at the door.

After a win you don't see a bunch of threads crowing about how the game was the best win ever, the playcalling ruled, or Gibbs should be re-signed to a lifetime contract. So why do we have to deal with the exact opposite?

Let's try to maintain some middle ground. Venting when taken to an extreme doesn't add much value to the site in my opinion.

I agree to an extent. We do all have a bunch of comments about how wonderful Gibbs is when we win, but I understand your point.
I will PM you.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by jsarno

I agree to an extent. We do all have a bunch of comments about how wonderful Gibbs is when we win, but I understand your point.
I will PM you.

Not even close to the extent of the negativity after a loss.

I've seen it year after year here. After a win everyone is generally happy and in a good mood. There are some butt-kissing posts, but NOTHING compares to what happens after a loss.

When the Skins lose, the board sees almost double the amount of traffic then it does after a win. The number of new threads and posts literally explodes. People that haven't posted in days or even weeks all of a sudden are posting like crazy.

Again, nobody here is trying to control opinions or make anyone conform. We just want to make the forums as enjoyable as possible for everyone, and keep the conversations filled with intelligent debates vs. emotional venting.

[jsarno]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

I've seen it year after year here. After a win everyone is generally happy and in a good mood. There are some butt-kissing posts, but NOTHING compares to what happens after a loss

Well, like I said, I do agree with you. I think a lot of people are tired with losing, and it's something this team has done for a LOOOONG time, so people have the knee jerk reaction that this is a doomed team cause the Skins have done nothing to make us think otherwise.
I personally never get bad after a loss, this was a tough for loss for us, and my vents were strictly about the play calling which I still stand by. That needs to change. But again, I do understand what you're saying, and I agree. I generally ignore the negative posts from losses in the past.

When the Skins lose, the board sees almost double the amount of traffic then it does after a win. The number of new threads and posts literally explodes. People that haven't posted in days or even weeks all of a sudden are posting like crazy.

I can see how that gets annoying. I am usually the opposite. When we lose I like to find a hole to crawl into, when we win, I want to shout out to the world. I guess I am in the minority.

[Gmanc711]

Originally Posted by jsarno

Well, like I said, I do agree with you. I think a lot of people are tired with losing, and it's something this team has done for a LOOOONG time, so people have the knee jerk reaction that this is a doomed team cause the Skins have done nothing to make us think otherwise.
I personally never get bad after a loss, this was a tough for loss for us, and my vents were strictly about the play calling which I still stand by. That needs to change. But again, I do understand what you're saying, and I agree. I generally ignore the negative posts from losses in the past.



I can see how that gets annoying. I am usually the opposite. When we lose I like to find a hole to crawl into, when we win, I want to shout out to the world. I guess I am in the minority.

I'll agree with Matty on this point, based soley off of personal experiance...I mean you all know I'm here after a win or loss....and I think it goes back to that whole "Therapy" thing I was talking about....When we win, I'll log onto the site, post the Tony question thread, and ussually log right off, enjoy a beer and enjoy the day of football ahead.... When I'm upset about the Redskins, I ussally have alot more to say and I feel the need to be "talking" too other people who I know are going through it as I am....I mean ask TMC, every week that we lose, I ussually call him within 5 mintues of the game going final to yell and vent because I dont feel like venting to people who dont understand me..... Its weird, I know...but I can understand where SOME people are coming from with this...I also understand where Matty is coming from where people have nothing insightful to say except "f gibbs" or whatever that provides little insight....I also understand that some people dont take it as seriously as I do (that DOES NOT mean they are less of a fan, just more sane)....but I feel the need to defend the people who are a little more vocal after a loss than a win, because I"m one of them too..