Eagles Implosion

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by FRPLG

I all honesty I think McNabb has been rather over-rated throughout his career. I think for the most part you can look at his stats and see that he is a good QB but not the great QB that so many us to believe. BUT I have felt he was good enough to be a top 10 QB and could lead a SB winner with the right components. He has never had that. I have also felt for a while, admittedly without much hard evidence, that Reid is big time over-rated. His offense is one dimensional and he seems completely out of touch in terms of leading his team. I think every time I watch them I realize how much they wasted McNabb's prime and how they should have won at least one SB by now. I blame Reid for it all. Seriously can anyone say that they haven't screwed McNabb's prime years up? They gave him no weapons and then they proceeded to ask him to throw the ball 65% of the time without those weapons. They finally get someone who can play, Westbrook, by accident almost but he is hurt all the time. Why is this not a story? Where are all the journalists killing this organization?

I have heard it said many times but the facts are they have still found away to make it into the playoffs. Is it Reids fault that they have not gone out and picked up some help for MvNabb or an owner who is too cheap.

[SouperMeister]

Originally Posted by firstdown

I have heard it said many times but the facts are they have still found away to make it into the playoffs. Is it Reids fault that they have not gone out and picked up some help for MvNabb or an owner who is too cheap.

Make no mistake, Jeffrey Lurie is a hands-off owner when it comes to personnel decisions, and he's not afraid to sign a big check. He has brought in big dollar free agents (Kearse, Owens) when advised to do so by Reid and Banner.

[12thMan]

Originally Posted by SouperMeister

Make no mistake, Jeffrey Lurie is a hands-off owner when it comes to personnel decisions.

I have a hard time buying that after so many NFC championships and a Super Bowl appearance.

[SouperMeister]

Originally Posted by 12thMan

I have a hard time buying that after so many NFC championships and a Super Bowl appearance.

I went to school in Philly, and follow them closely as my most hated rival since I have so many friends from up there (yes, I hate the Eagles more than Dallas). Ask any Philly fan who makes their personnel decisions, and two names are always mentioned - Reid and Banner. Banner plays a larger role in cap management, Reid has final say in personnel decisions, and Lurie signs the checks.

P.S. The same formula has worked well in NE with Belichick/Pioli making personnel decisions, and Robert Kraft remaining hands off, signing checks.

[FRPLG]

Originally Posted by firstdown

I have heard it said many times but the facts are they have still found away to make it into the playoffs. Is it Reids fault that they have not gone out and picked up some help for MvNabb or an owner who is too cheap.

I think it the arrogance of the front office. Everyone is on their nuts but in the end this team has never won a SB because they are a one dimensional team with no weapons on offense.

I agree that making the playoffs, getting to the NFC champ and SB is good. But when you have a team do those things in multiple years then you're talking about a team that should have won a big one by now. I feel like once you are a perrennial playoff team you are only successful if you win the SB. We go out and make the SB this year and lose thenI am probably relatively happy. If I am an Eagles fan by year 3 of not either not making the SB or losing and I am pissed.