Are the redskins gearing up for 5 WR sets?

[wbecker999]

Originally Posted by scowan

I agree with Matty, you can't put all of that pressure to read Blitzes out of a 5WR set on a young J. Campbell. He will make the wrong read from time to time and kill us. At the same time, our line is too banged up to play "Redskins Football" power running an all.... The Skins need to play to their strengths, which unfortunately right now seems to be low scoring games with few turnovers that keep the opposing team off the field. Running some with a shot deep from time to time.

I am scared this week that the Skins will not be able to keep up with the scoring that Detroit will throw at them. If the Skins don't score 30 points against the Lions, they will lose.

We will not win a superbowl until the palyers and quarterback can make the reads. So we might as well start implementing it now.

Heck if Appalachian State personel can figure it out .Don't you think our professionals and our coaching can do it?

[wilsowilso]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

This is why it doesn't make sense.

We're missing two starters on the right side and we have a QB with 10 career starts. You can bet teams would tee off with blitzes all day long.

Why are we so afraid of the blitz? I know Campbell is young, but he is very good at feeling the pressure and making things happen so why not let him develop that trait even more because really the great quarterbacks absolutley kill you if you blitz them too much.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by wilsowilso

Why are we so afraid of the blitz? I know Campbell is young, but he is very good at feeling the pressure and making things happen so why not let him develop that trait even more because really the great quarterbacks absolutley kill you if you blitz them too much.

I agree with you. Campbell has shown no problem beating the blitz so far. He's actually gotten outstanding protection since he became the QB, and his decision making is generally outstanding for his age and experience.

He's just got to complete more passes, stop forcing the ball into bad matchups, and do the above especially well on third down.

All that said, Yoder should play on nearly every passing down to help in protection and be a safety valve. Cooley needs to be out in the pattern, and 5 guys running routes with only 5 guys blocking is usually a recipe for disaster. 4 guys in the pattern with 6 guys blocking tends to yield more success.

[budw38]

Originally Posted by wilsowilso

Why are we so afraid of the blitz? I know Campbell is young, but he is very good at feeling the pressure and making things happen so why not let him develop that trait even more because really the great quarterbacks absolutley kill you if you blitz them too much.

If you have five guys in the pass pattern , you cannot pick up the blitz , your qb gets beaten to death . You also lose time of pos. , tire your defence . JC has only 10 starts , he would get killed if we went to the spread ,,, anyone remember Detroit and Atlanta playing us in the 91 playoffs ? As great as W. Moon / J. Kelly were , they always struggled to score pts and sustain drives against the better defences . I know pts can be scored with the spread offence , but I boubt Moss / R El would hold up to the hits that they would take game after game .

[wilsowilso]

Originally Posted by budw38

If you have five guys in the pass pattern , you cannot pick up the blitz , your qb gets beaten to death . You also lose time of pos. , tire your defence . JC has only 10 starts , he would get killed if we went to the spread ,,, anyone remember Detroit and Atlanta playing us in the 91 playoffs ? As great as W. Moon / J. Kelly were , they always struggled to score pts and sustain drives against the better defences . I know pts can be scored with the spread offence , but I boubt Moss / R El would hold up to the hits that they would take game after game .

Hey I wasn't advocating using a 5 wr set I merely asked the question why are we so enamored with Max protection. A 4 wr set would be more realistic and I would really just like to see more three wr sets even. Our passing game has not been attacking the middle of the field. Cooley has 5 catches. There is something wrong with that. We don't have a consitent over the middle wideout. The smaller receivers need to be protected and they can't go over the middle all day, but we really need somebody who can. Caldwell and or McCardell will hopefully perform that job although Caldwell is soft, but if one of these guys can open the middle some more from a three or even four wideout set that would be really good for us.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by wbecker999

This why I think it makes sense to go with the spread offense.
1. split Cooley out to get sombody tall as a reciever (mismatched with a linebacker)
2.mismatches all day with cooley, moss,AR, BL, McCardell
3.portis banged up (now power running game)
4. Line Banged up (now power running game)
5. Betts is better in space (you can rotate him in and out)
6.prevent blitzes (if they blitz sombody will be open on a quick slant)
7.get the ball in the hands of the playmakers in space more often.

Gibbs would never do it. He's too worried about pass protection. Al S. would do it casue that's what he likes to do.

I would at least like to see more 4 wr sets and try running some out of these formations. That would help CP get in space a bit.

[Santana=TheTruth]

I can't believe we gave up a 2nd and 4rth rounder for that donkey...what a disgrace!!! It's aquisitions like lloyd and archuleta that shows how incompetent are front office can be. Yes, we have made good aquisitions as well (Fletcher, Washington, Are), but we still are searching for answers at the wideout position and will continue to....Lloyd might as well pack up and get the hell out of town. . . . Hail the the Skins, scalp them Lions -GHOLLA

[Darrell_Green_28]

Maybe we can sign another former Redskins receiver

Niners waive WR Taylor Jacobs, re-sign Bryan Gilmore - NFL - Yahoo! Sports

[JWsleep]

JG loves the max protect, no doubt. And there's something to be said for it, after watching the gints DESTROY the iggles pass protection. And just cast your memory back to the bad ole days of the ole ball coach and his attempts (successful, it seems) to crush the life out of one PATRICK RAMSEY. (All right! A Ramsey thread!) I'm all for expanding the variation of our passing game--we need it!--but there are risks involved.

I heard that Taylor Jacobs got hurt just because that post appeared. He's kinda fragile, you know.

[SouperMeister]

Originally Posted by JWsleep

JG loves the max protect, no doubt. And there's something to be said for it, after watching the gints DESTROY the iggles pass protection. And just cast your memory back to the bad ole days of the ole ball coach and his attempts (successful, it seems) to crush the life out of one PATRICK RAMSEY. (All right! A Ramsey thread!) I'm all for expanding the variation of our passing game--we need it!--but there are risks involved.

I heard that Taylor Jacobs got hurt just because that post appeared. He's kinda fragile, you know.

Teams that run 4 and 5 receiver sets can make it work if the QB gets rid of the ball quickly. That often means 3 step drops with a quick decision to let it fly. Not sure whether Campbell is far enough along in his development to be put in that situation. Short, quick passes haven't exactly been his strength so far.

As for Jacobs, let me remind everyone that Osi Umenyiora was available in the 2nd round of the 2003 draft when the OBC just had to have his Gator boy. Aside from Darrell Jackson, can anyone name a WR or QB of note that Spurrier developed? (And don't say Reche Caldwell).

[4mrusmc]

This guy B-Loyd is starting to piss me off with his lack of production on the field. Hey dude, have some freaking pride in yourself, and catch some passes for your team! Man-up, and help your team win!

[Monkeydad]

Let's see...

Moss, Randel El, Thrash, McCardell, Lloyd...

I'm only counting 4 receivers there, how are you figuring we can have a 5-WR set?

[BDBohnzie]

Buster - you're forgetting Reche Caldwell. That would be the 5th, and will likely see the field this weekend if Moss can't go.

[Monkeydad]

Originally Posted by BDBohnzie

Buster - you're forgetting Reche Caldwell. That would be the 5th, and will likely see the field this weekend if Moss can't go.

Re-read my post.

[Cowell]

Haha, that is like what I do in Madden. I put Betts in at fullback, Cooley in at 3rd receiver and usually Brandon Lloyd at 2nd receiver, just because he is a lot better than Randle El in the game.