Joey Harrington

[SouperMeister]

Originally Posted by Dirtbag359

Have any Pro-Bowl level QB's come out of that draft?

In a word, no. The only other QB's from that draft to start a game were Josh McCown and David Garrard. Just another reason that we're fortunate that Gibbs had the forsight to trade up for Campbell.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by SouperMeister

In a word, no. The only other QB's from that draft to start a game were Josh McCown and David Garrard. Just another reason that we're fortunate that Gibbs had the forsight to trade up for Campbell.

The QB with the most success from that draft is probably Ronald Curry....who is, of course, a WR for the Raiders now.

[SouperMeister]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

The QB with the most success from that draft is probably Ronald Curry....who is, of course, a WR for the Raiders now.

Good one! Forgot all about Curry since he was drafted to play WR.

[jsarno]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

The QB with the most success from that draft is probably Ronald Curry....who is, of course, a WR for the Raiders now.

That's funny.

[dmek25]

oh god. i hope we aren't getting into that again

[SouperMeister]

Originally Posted by dmek25

oh god. i hope we aren't getting into that again

Dmek - my point is that landing in a system that fits is often just as important as a QBs ability. Spurrier's lack of QB protection in his system was probably the worst thing that happened to Ramsey. Same can be said for Carr's porous O-line in Houston. I'm very intrigued to watch Harrington's development in Petrino's system after back-to-back excellent games. Perhaps they're an aberration, or perhaps we're about to witness the resurrection of a career.

[dmek25]

Originally Posted by SouperMeister

Dmek - my point is that landing in a system that fits is often just as important as a QBs ability. Spurrier's lack of QB protection in his system was probably the worst thing that happened to Ramsey. Same can be said for Carr's porous O-line in Houston. I'm very intrigued to watch Harrington's development in Petrino's system after back-to-back excellent games. Perhaps they're an aberration, or perhaps we're about to witness the resurrection of a career.

i look at that alittle differently. Matt Shaub seems to be doing just fine behind basically the same line that almost got David Carr killed. in this league, its all about decision making. and how fast you can make them

[SouperMeister]

Originally Posted by dmek25

i look at that alittle differently. Matt Shaub seems to be doing just fine behind basically the same line that almost got David Carr killed. in this league, its all about decision making. and how fast you can make them

Carr also completed nearly 70% of his passes last year after Houston bolstered the O-line by signing Ephraim Salaam and drafting Eric Winston. Prior to that, Charley Casserly did very little to give Carr an NFL quality OL. That said, I would take Schaub over Carr, but I would take Campbell over either of them.

[Cowell]

No defense for Carr now, I know Carolina doesen't have the best offensive line, but it was better than the one in Houston. Anyone see the Carolina game last weekend? They got smacked, and Carr wasn't moving the ball at all, his receivers dropped a few, but he wasn't that great himself.

[The Zimmermans]

I drafted Stephen jackson and Brees in my 1st and 3rd rounds.....WTF

[That Guy]

lets wait till the end of the year before crowning him.

[Sheriff Gonna Getcha]

Originally Posted by That Guy

lets wait till the end of the year before crowning him.

Agreed. If Joey has those same types of numbers at the end of the year, I will eat crow (if I am not dead from a heart attack). As others have noted, it's a long season. The only game I saw with him was in Week 1, when he threw 2 picks, got sacked 6 times, and had a QB rating of 61.8 Granted, he had a few nice games since then, but we can't crown him off of 2-3 appearances - especially when you consider his track record.

[SouperMeister]

Originally Posted by Sheriff Gonna Getcha

Agreed. If Joey has those same types of numbers at the end of the year, I will eat crow (if I am not dead from a heart attack). As others have noted, it's a long season. The only game I saw with him was in Week 1, when he threw 2 picks, got sacked 6 times, and had a QB rating of 61.8 Granted, he had a few nice games since then, but we can't crown him off of 2-3 appearances - especially when you consider his track record.

I agree with waiting a full year to really evaluate, but I'll say that I'm surprised that Harrington has played this well the past two weeks. I figured that Byron Leftwich would be about ready to take his place about now.

[jsarno]

Originally Posted by SouperMeister

I agree with waiting a full year to really evaluate, but I'll say that I'm surprised that Harrington has played this well the past two weeks. I figured that Byron Leftwich would be about ready to take his place about now.

Maybe that's what is motivating him. It's not like he had anyone to push him anywhere else.

[Redskins247]

Originally Posted by SouperMeister

I agree with waiting a full year to really evaluate, but I'll say that I'm surprised that Harrington has played this well the past two weeks. I figured that Byron Leftwich would be about ready to take his place about now.

I'll bet that leash will be very short though, if Harrington has a real bad game, I think they'll put Leftwich in just for the curiosity sake of it. Harrington best keep it up!