Focus Your Negative Energy- Pats-Cowgirls Thread

[JWsleep]

I was referring to the thread title, really--it was supposed to be a thread to make s feel better!

As for the injuries and our chances, I think our D can keep us in it with lots of teams. And they seem to have found a good D against the pass, which is the main weapon of both dallas and the Pats. But, needless to say, we're going to have to stop the run against both these teams--not a real worry against detroit or GB. We'll see. My guess is a split against dallas, and a loss against the pats. But win the games we should and 10-6, 9-7 wildcard is very much in reach, even with a patchwork line. I know this team has blown games in the past. But I feel better about the team this year for 2 reasons: one, Campbell, and two, the D. My point is that I don't think throwing in the towel, or even writing us off as unable to beat the cowroids, is warranted at this point.

[GusFrerotte]

JC is awesome dude, but Santana and co need to get on track, and our O line is decimated. As of NOW we can't beat the hottest teams in the NFL.

[MTRedskinsFan]

This thread is kind of pathetic - it reveals that we're so bad (and we all know it) that rooting for losses elsewhere is all that's left. When I tried to watch Dallas-NE it was too depressing. I can picture the scene two weeks from now when we fail to score a single TD against NE and lose by 40 or 50 pts... Gibbs, completely outwitted and outclassed, staring across the field at Belichick w/ all his players respecting him and showing it in how they play. And then thinking ahead to Dallas, a team not anywhere in the league of NE, but still on a much higher level than Gibbs and Co. I hope there's a shakeup sooner than later, whether Gibbs retires or Snyder starts firing people, it's never too early to start the new era. For one thing, if the front office continues to be totally incompetent and the offense plays like a bunch of pussies, we're likely to lose Campbell to a much better team. There are some very good reasons to make the big changes sooner than later.

[JWsleep]

Originally Posted by MTRedskinsFan

This thread is kind of pathetic - it reveals that we're so bad (and we all know it) that rooting for losses elsewhere is all that's left. When I tried to watch Dallas-NE it was too depressing. I can picture the scene two weeks from now when we fail to score a single TD against NE and lose by 40 or 50 pts... Gibbs, completely outwitted and outclassed, staring across the field at Belichick w/ all his players respecting him and showing it in how they play. And then thinking ahead to Dallas, a team not anywhere in the league of NE, but still on a much higher level than Gibbs and Co. I hope there's a shakeup sooner than later, whether Gibbs retires or Snyder starts firing people, it's never too early to start the new era. For one thing, if the front office continues to be totally incompetent and the offense plays like a bunch of pussies, we're likely to lose Campbell to a much better team. There are some very good reasons to make the big changes sooner than later.

Given your signature, MT, does this post really make sense?

If this is "sharing your courage," I really hate to think what your fears are in this context!!!

My opinion: you are over-reacting to a 17-14 loss at Lambeau. We've got a top-10 defense, an emerging young QB, and an offense that, out of 10 halves of football, has played badly in only 2, really. We're getting better. It's not the smooth process we'd all want, but it's there. No, we are not an elite team. But we aren't shit either: check out the Rams, Falcons, Jets, Dolphins, Saints, and Bengals, for a start. Those teams have good reason to moan. We don't, not yet anyway. When did skins fans become so pissy, nervous, bitter, and insecure? Have some heart and stick by your team, at least here at 3-2. Or, if that's too much for you, just change your name to MTPatriotsFan and go cozy up to Belicheck. And then when, down the road, they run into trouble (all teams do), you can jump on whomever else is the new hot thing.

Or just keep your fears to yourself.

[SmootSmack]

I think we played a really tough game against a good team. It's a game we could have and probably should have won, but didn't. In spite of the loss, we have several positives to take from the game, we are 3-2, and we still have 2/3rds of the season ahead of us. Plenty of time for us to get on a roll.

Should we be happy we lost? No, of course not. Should we slit our wrists, call for everyone to be fired and predict 0-11 the rest of the way? Even more absurd. Season's not over, not by a long shot.

[MTRedskinsFan]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

I think we played a really tough game against a good team. It's a game we could have and probably should have won, but didn't. In spite of the loss, we have several positives to take from the game, we are 3-2, and we still have 2/3rds of the season ahead of us. Plenty of time for us to get on a roll.

Should we be happy we lost? No, of course not. Should we slit our wrists, call for everyone to be fired and predict 0-11 the rest of the way? Even more absurd. Season's not over, not by a long shot.

Love your optimism but seriously dude, it's not happening under the current management. We're not anywhere near a playoff caliber team after 5 games and what's the point in spending oodles of cash on coaches and players if the playoffs look like a longshot? Shit, the only team playing worse than us in our own conference right now is Philly. Dallas will kill us and from how NY has rebounded I think it's real likely they will sweep us again this year.

Somebody needs to start a thread discussing the best coaching changes after this season - or maybe even during this season.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by MTRedskinsFan

Love your optimism but seriously dude, it's not happening under the current management. We're not anywhere near a playoff caliber team after 5 games and what's the point in spending oodles of cash on coaches and players if the playoffs look like a longshot? Shit, the only team playing worse than us in our own conference right now is Philly. Dallas will kill us and from how NY has rebounded I think it's real likely they will sweep us again this year.

Somebody needs to start a thread discussing the best coaching changes after this season - or maybe even during this season.

Any thread that is started now speculating on best coaching changes wil get locked...immediately. It's as ridiculous, if not more so, than those idiotic Who Should We Draft in 2008 threads.

We clearly have been watching two different teams this year. The team you're watching is apparently 0-5 and has been shut out every game. The team I'm watching is 3-2, and one game out of a playoff spot...with 11 games to go. Hardly a longshot

[RobH4413]

Originally Posted by MTRedskinsFan

Love your optimism but seriously dude, it's not happening under the current management. We're not anywhere near a playoff caliber team after 5 games and what's the point in spending oodles of cash on coaches and players if the playoffs look like a longshot? Shit, the only team playing worse than us in our own conference right now is Philly. Dallas will kill us and from how NY has rebounded I think it's real likely they will sweep us again this year.

Somebody needs to start a thread discussing the best coaching changes after this season - or maybe even during this season.

Shear lunacy.

We're two plays from 5-0. Our defense has elite status. Coaching changes during the season? You can't be serious.

We're a playoff caliber team in a weak as hell NFC. Look at the teams we're competing against. What you call optimism, I call realism. To each his own.

[JWsleep]

I probably shouldn't but....

[MTRedskinsFan]

Hey, if you guys can be satisfied w/ an offense that can't score a single point in the 2nd half of two games (already) that's your shame. I'm just saying that Belichick, Dungy, Cowher, (and probably the old Gibbs) wouldn't stand for that kind of shit beyond the blink of an eye. Has it been addressed in Washington? Hmmm. If the coaching doesn't address the problems what do you do w/ the coaches?

Lunacy would be a call for a whole organization shook up. I love GW. But you can't be a contender for anything w/o consistency on both sides of the ball. Gibbs hasn't been able to get it done going on four years (even the 05 run was inconsistent and relied heavily on a healthy Portis). And Gibbs/Saunders hasn't got it done going on two years.

Where are the excuses going to come from next?

[RobH4413]

Originally Posted by MTRedskinsFan

Hey, if you guys can be satisfied w/ an offense that can't score a single point in the 2nd half of two games (already) that's your shame. I'm just saying that Belichick, Dungy, Cowher, (and probably the old Gibbs) wouldn't stand for that kind of shit beyond the blink of an eye. Has it been addressed in Washington? Hmmm. If the coaching doesn't address the problems what do you do w/ the coaches?

What do you think Belichick, Dungy, and Cowher would do without their #1 receiver, most of their starting o-line, and with a banged up RB and a young QB?

Our patchwork offense is currently #15 in the NFL. Let's take it easy...

[MTRedskinsFan]

Originally Posted by RobH4413

What do you think Belichick, Dungy, and Cowher would do without their #1 receiver, most of their starting o-line, and with a banged up RB and a young QB?

Our patchwork offense is currently #15 in the NFL. Let's take it easy...

Where do the excuses stop? Did we go w/o Moss and the starting o-line in NY? It has little to do w/ injuries. Great coaches and organizations prove that over and over again, that's the whole point.

[RobH4413]

Originally Posted by MTRedskinsFan

Where do the excuses stop? Did we go w/o Moss and the starting o-line in NY? It has little to do w/ injuries. Great coaches and organizations prove that over and over again, that's the whole point.

I'm not saying we're the New England Patriots, I'm saying we shouldn't fire our coaches.

The NY game was w/out Jansen and Thomas for most of the game. I think the players and coaches definitely share the blame for that loss, it was heart breaking. Our team isn't without flaw, we have issues.

I am just pointing out that your over-reacting.

If not Saunders and Gibbs, than who? Do you really think that would help this organization? Do you really think starting from scratch AGAIN is going to help. Comon, you've got to admit we're heading in the right direction, and we're looking like a damned fine competitor for an NFC wild card spot.

I'm not making excuses, I'm simply saying right here, right now, we're in the best shape we could possibly be personnel wise.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by MTRedskinsFan

Hey, if you guys can be satisfied w/ an offense that can't score a single point in the 2nd half of two games (already) that's your shame. I'm just saying that Belichick, Dungy, Cowher, (and probably the old Gibbs) wouldn't stand for that kind of shit beyond the blink of an eye. Has it been addressed in Washington? Hmmm. If the coaching doesn't address the problems what do you do w/ the coaches?

Lunacy would be a call for a whole organization shook up. I love GW. But you can't be a contender for anything w/o consistency on both sides of the ball. Gibbs hasn't been able to get it done going on four years (even the 05 run was inconsistent and relied heavily on a healthy Portis). And Gibbs/Saunders hasn't got it done going on two years.

Where are the excuses going to come from next?

I fully support the right of a fan of a team to be critical of his team when logic supports his argument, but you seem like you would be happier as a fair-weather Pats fan who doesn't have to deal with adversity.

I'm not saying go root for another team, and I'm not saying don't be critical of your current team. I'm saying if you can't see the logic in the arguments that are being posed against you, it's probably just not worth it to torture yourself with these "crappy" Redskin performances.

[MTRedskinsFan]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

I fully support the right of a fan of a team to be critical of his team when logic supports his argument, but you seem like you would be happier as a fair-weather Pats fan who doesn't have to deal with adversity.

I'm not saying go root for another team, and I'm not saying don't be critical of your current team. I'm saying if you can't see the logic in the arguments that are being posed against you, it's probably just not worth it to torture yourself with these "crappy" Redskin performances.

Hate the Pats, don't like Belichick (respect the guy, don't like him). I a Skins fan since I was 11 and always will be. I'm pointing out the obvious here. In four seasons with Gibbs back (two w/ the great Al Saunders) we still have no consistency on the offensive side of the ball. I really think the era is coming to a close no matter what (Gibbs 2.0), he might retire end of this season.
Of course, Snyder would get crucified for publicly insulting Gibbs w/ a hit like that, but since Gibbs has pretty much taken a back seat when it comes to coaching what about bringing someone in to replace Saunders? What about bringing in the next coach now as the General Manager to restore discipline, organization, time/training/strengthening management.

I'm really just saying that aside from the D under GW there seems to be a lack of leadership, and some guys out there are proven leaders. I don't know what's gone wrong w/ the offense under Gibbs/Saunders, but excuses for everything under the sun can't be the answer.