Our offense is Pathetic

[irish]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Campbell rushed his read on that 4th down, he had McCardell wide freaking open but he just rushed and dumped it to Betts. I'll chalk that up to his inexperience and not anything to do with bad coaching.

He did rush his read because he is inexperienced and the coaches know he is inexperienced. Why not (after burning a timeout to think about what to do) call a play with a primary read that is past the 1st down marker? The coaches should have expected him to rush the read andif he did the team would have a 1st down and if he didnt they might have more than that.

I still think there are too many offensive cooks in the kitchen. The team either need to let Gibbs call the plays or Saunders call the plays but both is not working well.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by irish

He did rush his read because he is inexperienced and the coaches know he is inexperienced. Why not (after burning a timeout to think about what to do) call a play with a primary read that is past the 1st down marker? The coaches should have expected him to rush the read andif he did the team would have a 1st down and if he didnt they might have more than that.

I still think there are too many offensive cooks in the kitchen. The team either need to let Gibbs call the plays or Saunders call the plays but both is not working well.

How do you know Betts was the first read?

[irish]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

How do you know Betts was the first read?

Aikman said he was.

[warriorzpath]

Originally Posted by irish

Aikman said he was.

I don't like Aikman as one of the broadcasters/commentators in the booth for the redskins games. He just pretends to be unbaised, but if you notice - he will discretely say negative comments and critize the redskins (especially critical with Campbell's decisions), but say only good things about the opposition.

Campbell made the wrong read, he should have waited a split second longer, Smoot is lucky that he wasn't called for the force out - I never heard that before in my life: being lucky for not being called for a force out. Pay attention, it's like he subliminally injects these thoughts into your head. I wanted to put it on mute, but I like to hear the game.

Oh yeah, I like the criticism of Campbell's long passes being too flat. I don't know if I agree with him or not, but I don't want him making me think like a damn cowboy like that. Because that's also the first time I heard something like that too - a pass being too flat.

[irish]

Originally Posted by warriorzpath

I don't like Aikman as one of the broadcasters/commentators in the booth for the redskins games. He just pretends to be unbaised, but if you notice - he will discretely say negative comments and critize the redskins (especially critical with Campbell's decisions), but say only good things about the opposition.

Campbell made the wrong read, he should have waited a split second longer, Smoot is lucky that he wasn't called for the force out - I never heard that before in my life: being lucky for not being called for a force out. Pay attention, it's like he subliminally injects these thoughts into your head. I wanted to put it on mute, but I like to hear the game.

Oh yeah, I like the criticism of Campbell's long passes being too flat. I don't know if it's true yet or not, but I don't want him making me think like a damn cowboy like that. Because that's also the first time I heard something like that too - a pass being too flat.

Smoot never looked at the ball he just stuck his hands up in the receivers face. Thats illegal and thats what he was talking about.

JC does not get to pick his reads, he starts at 1 if he's open he gets the ball, if not he goes to 2 and so on. The primary read was open and he gave him the ball. He made the correct read according to the play.

[warriorzpath]

Originally Posted by irish

Smoot never looked at the ball he just stuck his hands up in the receivers face. Thats illegal and thats what he was talking about.

Smoot didn't and shouldn't have been penalized on that play. That play was legal - I never saw his hands in his facemask or anything like that. If you are saying that he was blocking his vision of the pass/ball without touching the receiver - that is perfectly legal.

[irish]

Originally Posted by warriorzpath

Smoot didn't and shouldn't have been penalized on that play. That play was legal - I never say his hands in his facemask or anything like that. If you are saying that he was blocking his vision of the pass/ball without touching the receiver - that is perfectly legal.

No its not. Its called face guarding and its illegal.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by warriorzpath

I don't like Aikman as one of the broadcasters/commentators in the booth for the redskins games. He just pretends to be unbaised, but if you notice - he will discretely say negative comments and critize the redskins (especially critical with Campbell's decisions), but say only good things about the opposition.

Campbell made the wrong read, he should have waited a split second longer, Smoot is lucky that he wasn't called for the force out - I never heard that before in my life: being lucky for not being called for a force out. Pay attention, it's like he subliminally injects these thoughts into your head. I wanted to put it on mute, but I like to hear the game.

Oh yeah, I like the criticism of Campbell's long passes being too flat. I don't know if I agree with him or not, but I don't want him making me think like a damn cowboy like that. Because that's also the first time I heard something like that too - a pass being too flat.

I guess if you want to spin it that way, but I don't buy it personally.

Aikman is pretty fair and balanced with all the games he does. I've heard him say plenty of positive things in regard to the Redskins. It all depends on what you choose to hear.

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

I guess if you want to spin it that way, but I don't buy it personally.

Aikman is pretty fair and balanced with all the games he does. I've heard him say plenty of positive things in regard to the Redskins. It all depends on what you choose to hear.

I agree. For my money, Aikman and Buck are as good as it gets, and that includes Madden and Michaels. The only reason they had Albert and not Buck yesterday is b/c Buck did the ALCS on Fox Saturday night.

[warriorzpath]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

I guess if you want to spin it that way, but I don't buy it personally.

Aikman is pretty fair and balanced with all the games he does. I've heard him say plenty of positive things in regard to the Redskins. It all depends on what you choose to hear.

That's what I thought until I listened closely. I just don't remember him saying something positive about the redskins without also saying something negative.

[TheBigD]

Originally Posted by warriorzpath

That's what I thought until I listened closely. I just don't remember him saying something positive about the redskins without also saying something negative.

Dude, he is like that even with the Cowboys. You should have seen the number of threads they have on Cowboys forums about how scared Aikman is of saying something nice about the Cowboys and how he praised McNabb in one of his games.

As fans, not excluding myself, we tend to hear what we want to hear. The first half, there were many compliments about JC and how good he is with his decision making after he scored that run TD. He defended him when Woodson some how came up with that "interception" and said it was Moss's fault.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by irish

Aikman said he was.

Well if he was perhaps it was Betts fault for not getting deep enough on his route.

Either way I don't think we have conclusive enough evidence to say it was a coaching blunder. Not when there was a wide open guy that JC flat out didn't see. The play was there, the execution was not.

[irish]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Well if he was perhaps it was Betts fault for not getting deep enough on his route.

Either way I don't think we have conclusive enough evidence to say it was a coaching blunder. Not when there was a wide open guy that JC flat out didn't see. The play was there, the execution was not.

Maybe Betts didnt get deep enough, good point. My point is Betts was the 1st look, if he's open he gets the ball. He was so he did. JC executed the play correctly.