Vince Young overrated?

[Defensewins]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Stats never ever ever tell the real story. I think JC should have a better competion % and two less INT's. But all of the drops have hurt him in both those areas. That is why I really never pay too much attention to it.

That was my whole point. I don't give a crap if this guy has better stats than that guy. You are only as good as team you played against. If I played against the Patriots 5-0 and the Colts 5-0 and you played against the 0-6 Dolphins and the 0-6 Rams, who do think is more likely to have a bigger stats? Stats are not a good way to determine how good a player is.
For example the winner of the weak NFC South will most likely have inflated stats because that divison is currently the weakest top to bottom in teh NFL. That may change, but they are not very good right now. Well if I had 6 games against the saints, falcons and the panthers I would be beter off than if I were in the AFC North or AFC South.

[724Skinsfan]

Funny how stats can be used to support one argument and dismissed for another.

Good ole Joey H is putting up monster stats tonight. With some luck, he may break the 50% completion mark.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by Defensewins

That was my whole point. I don't give a crap if this guy has better stats than that guy. You are only as good as team you played against. If I played against the Patriots 5-0 and the Colts 5-0 and you played against the 0-6 Dolphins and the 0-6 Rams, who do think is more likely to have a bigger stats? Stats are not a good way to determine how good a player is.
For example the winner of the weak NFC South will most likely have inflated stats because that divison is currently the weakest top to bottom in teh NFL. That may change, but they are not very good right now. Well if I had 6 games against the saints, falcons and the panthers I would be beter off than if I were in the AFC North or AFC South.

That is what defensive adjustments are for...

That is, however, beyond the scope of conventional yards. What you could say is that "conventional stats are bad measures of how skilled a player is because they are often context heavy." I honestly believe this is an accurate statement as your Moss-Welker situation points out.

Unfortunately I don't by the "because they are sometimes faulty, they are useless" argument. Faulty as yards are, they correlate a heckuva lot better to winning football than just assuming every player on a winning team is better than every player on a losing team.

[RobH4413]

Poor guy has a lot of typing ahead of him if he wants to answer everybody. Sorry to barrage you like that defensewins. Godspeed in answering us all.