Kurt Warner to Miss Skins Game

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

What exactly did Arizona pick up on?? C'mon they were desperate and he was the best name out there.

I called it the Ramsey treatment because some like to think that he's still this hidden gem that only needs a chance to prove himself, when in reality he's had his chances and has failed to do so and that's why he's a backup.

Hey I agree that Rattay is a decent backup, I just argue that the fact that he's "good" but again it depends on your definition of that word relative to a QB.

I guess it is all perception. Historically, 80.3 is good by pretty much any standard. This year, it really isn't good. Completion percentages are at an all time high accross the league.

But what exactly has Rattay "failed" at? Because he wasn't an elite quarterback as a 4th year player on one of the worst teams in history? You leave it in context and what he has accomplised is actually pretty impressive given his leaguewide value. We could have had him in here this offseason for near league min value, and he's about 3 times the QB Todd Collins is.

Now we have to play against him. I'd like to go into this week already knowing we are going to have the W, but all I can do is hope our D keeps it up. If they don't we could be 3-3 come Monday.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

I guess it is all perception. Historically, 80.3 is good by pretty much any standard. This year, it really isn't good. Completion percentages are at an all time high accross the league.

But what exactly has Rattay "failed" at? Because he wasn't an elite quarterback as a 4th year player on one of the worst teams in history? You leave it in context and what he has accomplised is actually pretty impressive given his leaguewide value. We could have had him in here this offseason for near league min value, and he's about 3 times the QB Todd Collins is.

Now we have to play against him. I'd like to go into this week already knowing we are going to have the W, but all I can do is hope our D keeps it up. If they don't we could be 3-3 come Monday.

C'mon Tripp. Don't go picking on Todd Collins. To say Rattay is three times better than Collins is simply crazy. If that were the case he would be a starter. I think Rattay is a solid back-up, just like Collins. No more, no less.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

I guess it is all perception. Historically, 80.3 is good by pretty much any standard. This year, it really isn't good. Completion percentages are at an all time high accross the league.

But what exactly has Rattay "failed" at? Because he wasn't an elite quarterback as a 4th year player on one of the worst teams in history? You leave it in context and what he has accomplised is actually pretty impressive given his leaguewide value. We could have had him in here this offseason for near league min value, and he's about 3 times the QB Todd Collins is.

Now we have to play against him. I'd like to go into this week already knowing we are going to have the W, but all I can do is hope our D keeps it up. If they don't we could be 3-3 come Monday.

I didn't say he failed at anything. I said he's a journeyman and a decent backup. That doesn't fit into my definition of "good" when talking about NFL QB's, but like you said it's all about perception and our perceptions about this guy obviously differ.

Considering the passing attacks we've already shut down, I'm not at all concerned about a passing game led by Tim Rattay with 2 weeks of prep on a new team, sorry I'm just not.

If we lose this game it won't be because of the defense that's for sure.