Chris Samuels is having his best year as a Pro

[jamf]

I really hate samuels, At the LT position, 2 or 3 bad plays equals a bad game. he isn't physical enough at the point of attack and lacks killer instinct. I think he is having his best year as a pro this year thanks to dockerys departure, Regardless, I still hate him!

A few weeks ago, we ran a running play to the left side and Samuels blocked his guy and basically stopped in the middle of the gap, Betts ran straight into him. Those are the types of plays we see too often from him, He never finishes a play. for a guy his size and with his talent, he needs to be more physical.

I really really hate him, but he is having a probowl caliber year. Hopefully he can keep up the good work and work on his aggression.

[Southpaw]

Originally Posted by jamf

I really hate samuels, At the LT position, 2 or 3 bad plays equals a bad game. he isn't physical enough at the point of attack and lacks killer instinct. I think he is having his best year as a pro this year thanks to dockerys departure, Regardless, I still hate him!

All I can say it wow...

And Betts runs into blockers all the time. I think it has more to due with his lack of ability to make a cut, than the blockers themselves.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Southpaw

All I can say it wow...

And Betts runs into blockers all the time. I think it has more to due with his lack of ability to make a cut, than the blockers themselves.

You're being nice, all I can say is dumb.

[SouperMeister]

Originally Posted by jamf

I really hate samuels, At the LT position, 2 or 3 bad plays equals a bad game. he isn't physical enough at the point of attack and lacks killer instinct. I think he is having his best year as a pro this year thanks to dockerys departure, Regardless, I still hate him!

A few weeks ago, we ran a running play to the left side and Samuels blocked his guy and basically stopped in the middle of the gap, Betts ran straight into him. Those are the types of plays we see too often from him, He never finishes a play. for a guy his size and with his talent, he needs to be more physical.

I really really hate him, but he is having a probowl caliber year. Hopefully he can keep up the good work and work on his aggression.

That is a comment from somebody who clearly doesn't understand the difficulty of playing left tackle against premier pass rushers without TE support. During some of the years that Samuels struggled (particularly under Spurrier), he battled injuries while the Skins were definitely a pass first offense. Aside from Walter Jones, and maybe Orlando Pace, show me a better LT in the NFC over the past 3 years. We are extremely fortunate to have Samuels.

[jamf]

Originally Posted by SouperMeister

That is a comment from somebody who clearly doesn't understand the difficulty of playing left tackle against premier pass rushers without TE support. During some of the years that Samuels struggled (particularly under Spurrier), he battled injuries while the Skins were definitely a pass first offense. Aside from Walter Jones, and maybe Orlando Pace, show me a better LT in the NFC over the past 3 years. We are extremely fortunate to have Samuels.

I've actually played a little LT back in the day( HS Level ).

He is a good passblocker and I did say that he IS have a probowl year.

3rd best tackle in the NFC? Sure, But I wouldn't put him in the class of Walter Jones or Pace( when healthy).

What bothers me about samuels is he never finishes off blocks. He never pancakes defenders. He is as talented as any tackle thats ever played the game but he lacks the aggression to be considered one of the best.

A great tackle to me is a player who is a great pass blocker and road grader type run blocker. Samuels is not a great run blocker in my opinion.
But he could if he learned to play mad!

[Southpaw]

Originally Posted by jamf

What bothers me about samuels is he never finishes off blocks. He never pancakes defenders. He is as talented as any tackle thats ever played the game but he lacks the aggression to be considered one of the best.

Samuels' job is to block and keep defenders in front of him and as far away from the play as possible. Who cares if he doesn't pancake a lot of people? Pancake blocks aren't the norm, regardless of what Madden 08 tells you.

Pancakes are overrated anyway, because there's also a chance that the blocker will be taken out of the play as well.

[SouperMeister]

Originally Posted by Southpaw

Samuels' job is to block and keep defenders in front of him and as far away from the play as possible. Who cares if he doesn't pancake a lot of people? Pancake blocks aren't the norm, regardless of what Madden 08 tells you.

Pancakes are overrated anyway, because there's also a chance that the blocker will be taken out of the play as well.

Outstanding point. It's not unusual to see Samuels handle his man, then get to the next tier to make a 2nd block on a play. I've never understood fans that get down on him. Would those haters prefer that we had drafted Peter Warrick with the 3rd overall selection that we used to get Samuels?

[DynamiteRave]

Originally Posted by jamf

I really hate samuels, At the LT position, 2 or 3 bad plays equals a bad game. he isn't physical enough at the point of attack and lacks killer instinct. I think he is having his best year as a pro this year thanks to dockerys departure, Regardless, I still hate him!

A few weeks ago, we ran a running play to the left side and Samuels blocked his guy and basically stopped in the middle of the gap, Betts ran straight into him. Those are the types of plays we see too often from him, He never finishes a play. for a guy his size and with his talent, he needs to be more physical.

I really really hate him, but he is having a probowl caliber year. Hopefully he can keep up the good work and work on his aggression.

You should be on your knees thanking God for Samuels. He's pretty much the only O-Line starter we have left!

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by jamf

I really hate samuels, At the LT position, 2 or 3 bad plays equals a bad game. he isn't physical enough at the point of attack and lacks killer instinct. I think he is having his best year as a pro this year thanks to dockerys departure, Regardless, I still hate him!

A few weeks ago, we ran a running play to the left side and Samuels blocked his guy and basically stopped in the middle of the gap, Betts ran straight into him. Those are the types of plays we see too often from him, He never finishes a play. for a guy his size and with his talent, he needs to be more physical.

I really really hate him, but he is having a probowl caliber year. Hopefully he can keep up the good work and work on his aggression.

You hate him??? WTF is that all about??? Do you really know how tough it is to play LT w/ no help? Do you see JC getting blind sided?? Your comments are just plain silly.

[jamf]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

You hate him??? WTF is that all about??? Do you really know how tough it is to play LT w/ no help? Do you see JC getting blind sided?? Your comments are just plain silly.

Yes I hate Him!

[JGisLordOfTheRings]

Originally Posted by jamf

Yes I hate Him!

WOW.

Samuels is one of the top-tier LT's in the game and deserves his props. He is a quality character guy and a 'Skin for life.

Don's drink the Hater-Ade now...

lol

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by jamf

Yes I hate Him!

Well it sounds like you have some issues. Did he sleep with your girlfriend or somethiing?

[chrisl4064]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Well it sounds like you have some issues. Did he sleep with your girlfriend or somethiing?

hahaha, i used to use this line all the time, then i was warned........ be careful my friend, be vary careful.....

[mheisig]

Originally Posted by jamf

I really hate samuels, At the LT position, 2 or 3 bad plays equals a bad game. he isn't physical enough at the point of attack and lacks killer instinct. I think he is having his best year as a pro this year thanks to dockerys departure, Regardless, I still hate him!

A few weeks ago, we ran a running play to the left side and Samuels blocked his guy and basically stopped in the middle of the gap, Betts ran straight into him. Those are the types of plays we see too often from him, He never finishes a play. for a guy his size and with his talent, he needs to be more physical.

I really really hate him, but he is having a probowl caliber year. Hopefully he can keep up the good work and work on his aggression.

Are you drunk? Please say you're drunk, because I think we could all just forgive you and move on if you were really, really drunk.

[JGisLordOfTheRings]

Originally Posted by mheisig

Are you drunk? Please say you're drunk, because I think we could all just forgive you and move on if you were really, really drunk.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA........a reply is looming......