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Old 10-22-2007, 06:04 PM   #1
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Re: What's your defnition of 'conservative playcalling'?

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Your post highlighted what I've been saying all along.. Focus on drives 3, 4, 5. What happened right before that? We went up 2 TD.. For some reason, that is the trigger to get away from being aggressive. You said it yourself, that's when we got conservative..

I've never claimed our entire offense is conservative, it just drives me nuts to see us stop attacking once we have a 2 TD lead.. We can't keep hanging the defense out to dry like that.. We've been the better team on the field each week so far, but that's not always going to be the case How about shotgun on downs other than on 3rd and long? How about not running the ball on 1st down on 4 of 5 2nd half possessions?? Maybe I should have termed the thread passivity rather than conservatism but it's kinda the same thing..
Do the coaches change their game-plans if we are up by 10 points? Yes, just as coaches change their game-plans if they are down by 10 points. Do the coaches get sometimes too conservative/passive? In my opinion, yes. But, it's not as though the coaches are NEVER calling aggressive plays in the second half of games. The coaches called deep bombs in the second halves of the Philly, NYG, and GB games that didn't connect. Had JC connected with Moss on those deep-plays, I doubt people would be saying how conservative our coaches get when playing with a lead.
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Old 10-22-2007, 07:24 PM   #2
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Re: What's your defnition of 'conservative playcalling'?

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Do the coaches change their game-plans if we are up by 10 points? Yes, just as coaches change their game-plans if they are down by 10 points. Do the coaches get sometimes too conservative/passive? In my opinion, yes. But, it's not as though the coaches are NEVER calling aggressive plays in the second half of games. The coaches called deep bombs in the second halves of the Philly, NYG, and GB games that didn't connect. Had JC connected with Moss on those deep-plays, I doubt people would be saying how conservative our coaches get when playing with a lead.
Again, it's not just about the bombs.. It's about the mid range passing game moreso than bombs.. It's about not being predictable all the time.. It's about a mentality of attacking rather than just trying to bleed the clock when the defense knows exactly what's coming..

BTW, it's not just some of us 'clueless, just plain stupid' fans who see the questionable play calling pattern.. Redskins Insider
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Old 10-22-2007, 07:43 PM   #3
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Again, it's not just about the bombs.. It's about the mid range passing game moreso than bombs.. It's about not being predictable all the time.. It's about a mentality of attacking rather than just trying to bleed the clock when the defense knows exactly what's coming..

BTW, it's not just some of us 'clueless, just plain stupid' fans who see the questionable play calling pattern.. Redskins Insider
He says JC generally had plenty of time to throw.

Very interesting observation. Just not sure what game he was watching exactly but whatever.
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Old 10-23-2007, 12:11 AM   #4
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Re: What's your defnition of 'conservative playcalling'?

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He says JC generally had plenty of time to throw.

Very interesting observation. Just not sure what game he was watching exactly but whatever.
I thought the same thing when I read that. JC had time sometimes, but whenever the Cards brought any kind of pressure it was a complete CF. JLC brings good info and I generally like his stuff, but let's face it, the guy's passion is soccer, football is his job. I'm not looking to him for the hard-hitting analysis of the nuances of football and I'm not going to run to him to break down game film.

I will, however, concede that the latest article in the Post would seem to bolster the case of the "conservative play-calling" folks. I still don't think they had the opportunities to do much in that second half, but from JG's lips to God's ears I suppose.

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Old 10-22-2007, 09:02 PM   #5
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Re: What's your defnition of 'conservative playcalling'?

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But, it's not as though the coaches are NEVER calling aggressive plays in the second half of games. The coaches called deep bombs in the second halves of the Philly, NYG, and GB games that didn't connect. Had JC connected with Moss on those deep-plays, I doubt people would be saying how conservative our coaches get when playing with a lead.
I believe our playcalling has been too conservative overall. However my main problem with Drive 5 is the deep pass on 2nd down. If you want to be aggressive, fine, but when your offense is struggling, you are up by 8, there are 3 minutes left, and the DEF is playing well, either run or call a high percentage pass. Don't be "aggressive" just to say, "I was aggresive". Be smart, play the percentages, if the Skins run another 30 seconds or more off the clock or ARI burns timeouts the game is essentially over. This poor decision made the difference between sealing the victory without too much stress or getting fortunate Rackers missed wide by about a foot. Saunders or Gibbs (whoever's decision this one was) is getting paid too much to make this kind of strategic mistake IMO.
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