12th's 5 Reasons Why The Skins Beat N.E.

[bertoskins2]

our defense will dominate the pats during the first half. we will frustrate them and will not score a lot of points on us, again I am pointing to the first half when our defense still fresh.

and the 2nd half, they will start to dominate us and score points in bunches, because our defense will get tired and our offense continue to suck and cannot control the clock.

but once again this will be the lowest offensive output for the pats. but we have a slim chance to pull this one thru

[chris66]

Originally Posted by bertoskins2

our defense will dominate the pats during the first half. we will frustrate them and will not score a lot of points on us, again I am pointing to the first half when our defense still fresh.

You base this on what? The pats have scored on their first possession in every game so far this season including the cowboys.

If your defense plays a deep cover 2 all game. Pats offense will just keep running, take the the underneath stuff and have 6-8 min drives, which is the style they prefer to play. The only reason why the last 2 games have been so many passing yards is because teams have been trying to stop the run and leaving the outside and middle zones open

[Sheriff Gonna Getcha]

Originally Posted by chris66

You base this on what? The pats have scored on their first possession in every game so far this season including the cowboys.

If your defense plays a deep cover 2 all game. Pats offense will just keep running, take the the underneath stuff and have 6-8 min drives, which is the style they prefer to play. The only reason why the last 2 games have been so many passing yards is because teams have been trying to stop the run and leaving the outside and middle zones open

We've been playing the pass all season long and, if my memory serves me, we haven't had anyone rush for 100 yards on us. Our defense is better than any defense you faced.

Welcome to the board by the way. We always welcome fans of other teams, provided they are like you, don't troll, and genuinely want to discuss the game.

[12thMan]

Originally Posted by Sheriff Gonna Getcha

We've been playing the pass all season long and, if my memory serves me, we haven't had anyone rush for 100 yards on us. Our defense is better than any defense you faced.

Welcome to the board by the way. We always welcome fans of other teams, provided they are like you, don't troll, and genuinely want to discuss the game.

You're right, no hundred yard rushers yet. Although Maynard and Westbrooks came within a whisker of getting there.

[chris66]

Originally Posted by Sheriff Gonna Getcha

We've been playing the pass all season long and, if my memory serves me, we haven't had anyone rush for 100 yards on us. Our defense is better than any defense you faced.

Welcome to the board by the way. We always welcome fans of other teams, provided they are like you, don't troll, and genuinely want to discuss the game.

so what your saying is the skins are going to rush 4 and play zone with the lb's. I can see welker having a 16 catch game if this happens. You might start out like that , but will change quickly having to bring up a safety to help in the slot leaving moss or stallworth one on one on the outside, plus the fact if you only rush 4-5 brady will have time to make sandwiches back there

[bertoskins2]

Originally Posted by chris66

so what your saying is the skins are going to rush 4 and play zone with the lb's. I can see welker having a 16 catch game if this happens. You might start out like that , but will change quickly having to bring up a safety to help in the slot leaving moss or stallworth one on one on the outside, plus the fact if you only rush 4-5 brady will have time to make sandwiches back there

try that with welker in the middle and he might end up in the injured reserved

[chris66]

Originally Posted by bertoskins2

try that with welker in the middle and he might end up in the injured reserved

My friend Welker lives in the middle. The guy is unbelievably quick and doesn't take big hits

[skinsnut]

Originally Posted by bertoskins2

try that with welker in the middle and he might end up in the injured reserved

That dude is little...if Sean Taylor hits him...he is out.
I think NE knows this...they will be using a TE for that inside slant stuff.

[chris66]

Originally Posted by skinsnut

That dude is little...if Sean Taylor hits him...he is out.
I think NE knows this...they will be using a TE for that inside slant stuff.

The skins are going to play moss and stallworth man to man then? Taylor cant be in 2 places at once and I doubt your D will be playing nickel all game.

[12thMan]

Originally Posted by chris66

so what your saying is the skins are going to rush 4 and play zone with the lb's. I can see welker having a 16 catch game if this happens. You might start out like that , but will change quickly having to bring up a safety to help in the slot leaving moss or stallworth one on one on the outside, plus the fact if you only rush 4-5 brady will have time to make sandwiches back there

This will be interesting. But for reasons I've posted, I just don't see N.E. bombs away with Taylor back there. Yes, Welker and Stallworth are nice, but they haven't really faced three starting corners all year either.

Furthermore, as soon as you guys bring your punter on the field after the first drive, both sides will know it's time to dig in and fight.

[TheMalcolmConnection]

Originally Posted by chris66

so what your saying is the skins are going to rush 4 and play zone with the lb's. I can see welker having a 16 catch game if this happens. You might start out like that , but will change quickly having to bring up a safety to help in the slot leaving moss or stallworth one on one on the outside, plus the fact if you only rush 4-5 brady will have time to make sandwiches back there

See, I don't know where people are getting that Welker is this beast receiver all of a sudden. For the most part, the Cardinals WRs, who are arguably better than Stallworth and Welker, didn't do much against the Skins until WAY late in the game, and even then, it wasn't much.

I'm a little concerned about the Moss match-up, but I really think the Skins corners will hold their own against Stallworth and Welker.

I'm far more concerned about Watson than those other two.

[12thMan]

Originally Posted by TheMalcolmConnection

See, I don't know where people are getting that Welker is this beast receiver all of a sudden. For the most part, the Cardinals WRs, who are arguably better than Stallworth and Welker, didn't do much against the Skins until WAY late in the game, and even then, it wasn't much.

I'm a little concerned about the Moss match-up, but I really think the Skins corners will hold their own against Stallworth and Welker.

I'm far more concerned about Watson than those other two.

Yeah, the Welker thing is killing me too. This is a guy who's taken advantage of teams having to double up on Moss. Don't get me wrong, he's good, but let's not get carried away either. Ditto Stallworth.

[TheMalcolmConnection]

Originally Posted by 12thMan

Yeah, the Welker thing is killing me too. This is a guy who's taken advantage of teams having to double up on Moss. Don't get me wrong, he's good, but let's not get carried away either. Ditto Stallworth.

He has two good games in a row and all of a sudden he's the best slot receiver in football? Gimme' a break.

Now, I'm not saying he isn't talented and he won't score a TD against us, but honestly, we've covered better receivers before already this season.

[#56fanatic]

Originally Posted by chris66

so what your saying is the skins are going to rush 4 and play zone with the lb's. I can see welker having a 16 catch game if this happens. You might start out like that , but will change quickly having to bring up a safety to help in the slot leaving moss or stallworth one on one on the outside, plus the fact if you only rush 4-5 brady will have time to make sandwiches back there

you know.. i sense a bit of arrogance. Look a ton of Skins fans out here have complimented your team and coach. saying how good you are and how you will probably win. You seem not to want to face the fact that our D is the strongest you have played and seem to believe our scheme is not working. If you have not noticed #1 in the NFC #3 in the NFL. We have played 2 or 3 of the top offenses in the league and have basically shut them down. I think you should show the same respect on the REDSKINS board as many of us here have show the Pats.

[bertoskins2]

Originally Posted by chris66

You base this on what? The pats have scored on their first possession in every game so far this season including the cowboys.

If your defense plays a deep cover 2 all game. Pats offense will just keep running, take the the underneath stuff and have 6-8 min drives, which is the style they prefer to play. The only reason why the last 2 games have been so many passing yards is because teams have been trying to stop the run and leaving the outside and middle zones open

That will change now. their first few possesions will be hard. especially when our defense is fresh. our LBs and DL will take away their run game. have the speed on the LB to challenge their middle passing game