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Old 10-25-2007, 12:19 PM   #1
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Re: Sunra To Gibbs: Turn Jason Campbell Loose!

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Several people has posted that pass oriented offense is not the Redskins, and we need to stick to who we are. Read any of the articles in the Post concerning the failures of the offense and it clearly points to the horrid playcalling and conservative style (run and grind it out) of Gibbs which has not worked and will not work if he continues to rely on the defense.
Jason Campbell has to be given the red light to make plays with his arm and feet. Gibbs must accept the reality that if eight are in the box, do not run the ball. Throw the ball short, medium or long range, but just throw the ball to someone with single coverage. That's why the Patriots are undefeated. This is not 1983. And no RB we have is Riggins or Joe Washington. We've got to adjust to what the defense is giving us.
Who's been playing us 8 in the box?

In fact, when was the last game going back through the Gibbs-era that we saw consistently 8 in the box.

It's never happened.
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Old 10-25-2007, 08:09 PM   #2
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Who's been playing us 8 in the box?

In fact, when was the last game going back through the Gibbs-era that we saw consistently 8 in the box.

It's never happened.
If the Giants and Packers didn't have 8 in the box, they sure as hell played like they did. Moreover, they definitely beat us by shutting down the run. Either way, we have no running game if Portis is getting most of the reps.
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Old 10-25-2007, 12:23 PM   #3
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Two things I don't understand:

1. If our O-Line is in such disarray that we can't run-block, how is that a good argument for passing?
Because the Quarterback can take on the responsibility of the offensive line in the passing game. A good QB (like Campbell) always knows how much time he has to get rid of the football.

Now if people start missing their protections and someone comes free, the QB can't really do anything except get rid of the ball. But even with an untalented offensive line, a passing offense can still be successful if the QB does an outstanding job.

Truth is that a QB is more likely to make a mistake when you get pressure on him, so you want to cut down on the passing game with no line, but it makes more sense than running behind no one. Admittedly, this is very very hard for a young QB to do, and still be successful, but most veterans don't seem to have a problem with it.
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Old 10-25-2007, 12:42 PM   #4
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Re: Sunra To Gibbs: Turn Jason Campbell Loose!

The Redskins need to run out of passing formations and pass out of running formations.

Also Jason is getting a little Brunellish with holding the ball. We need to play loose and let it fly. No one expects us to win anyway. Go for it on 4th and 5 from midfield. Don't just go for it, throw it in the endzone. It's like the George Costanza thing. Do the opposite.

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Re: Sunra To Gibbs: Turn Jason Campbell Loose!

I would love to see some draws and screens to Big Mike, he could be our mvp this game, lots of those quick hitters to the left side. We are a running team everyone knows that joe gibbs style, but we cant be this game, we need to be unpredictable i say give big mike 15-20 touches limit portis and betts carries and let Mike beat them up on the inside to keep them honest, and make them tired. This game (if we want to win) we must be able run the ball. We do not want to get into a shootout w/ NE
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Old 10-26-2007, 04:26 PM   #6
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I would love to see some draws and screens to Big Mike, he could be our mvp this game, lots of those quick hitters to the left side. We are a running team everyone knows that joe gibbs style, but we cant be this game, we need to be unpredictable i say give big mike 15-20 touches limit portis and betts carries and let Mike beat them up on the inside to keep them honest, and make them tired. This game (if we want to win) we must be able run the ball. We do not want to get into a shootout w/ NE
I like the unpredicatble nature of your ideas...you just have the wrong player for that. Sellers gets killed on traditional screens because he has no first move...the same would apply with a draw.

He is great in the middle, as a blocker and even as a TE....just dont expect him to juke anyone...he cant..
I love the guy.
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Old 10-27-2007, 12:40 AM   #7
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Re: Sunra To Gibbs: Turn Jason Campbell Loose!

Okay, lets assume those of us calling for a balanced attack that eats up the clock aren't advocating a return to the single wing (Yes, that was brilliant sarcasm crazy, pat yourself on the back for your insight).

Rather, we are advocating a balanced attack that takes shots both in the 10-15 yard range and deep down the field. But relies on a run game that, hopefully, runs straight at their LB's to minimize their pursuit ability. Draw them down and then go over them. - Daseal, mixing in a short pass is fine but, again, IMO, that plays into the strength of their defense, the LB's and fast corners. Plus it keeps the plays in front of Harrison and lets him play to his strength rather to than to his weakness which is deep coverage.

Trick plays, gadget plays - these work against undisciplined teams with poor pursuit. Further, spreading the field and relying on the passing game, as someone else said puts most of the offense on Campbell. He has to make the right reads play in and play out. While I like JC and think he is bound for great (not just good) things - I am not confident that he is, at this point, exerienced enough to figure out all the schemes Belicheck can throw against him. That leads to turnovers. Chuck and duck didn't work for Spurrier (or any other coach) and I seriously doubt it's gonna work Sunday.

Also, one of the reasons their defense is so good, IMO, is b/c it is well rested. NE leads the league in time of possesion.

Amazing - NE scores points by controlling the clock and winning the turnover battle. I wonder if JG has ever tried that??
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Old 10-27-2007, 02:35 AM   #8
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Re: Sunra To Gibbs: Turn Jason Campbell Loose!

Well, the last time we beat New England was chuck and duck and that was a super bowl year...
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