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[jsarno]

Originally Posted by skinsguy

Tuition is just part of the cost of college. Anyone who has been to college should know this. The cost of books is a separate cost, activity fees, there's a cost just to apply to college, the cost of room and board, food, and supplies. Heck, there are several colleges requiring students to have laptops, so that's another sizable cost. There is also a cost just to graduate college too.

Hold up...are you telling me there are no colleges near you at all? No community colleges you can commute to? There should be no need for room and board.
Yes, books are a part...buy used and save big.
Activity fees? What activities will you be doing? You should be focusing on school work and actual work, activities are a luxury.
The cost to apply is small. $39 I think.

Again, you go to night school and don't quit your job. You are assuming you need to quit your job and do what a 19 year old kid does when he moves to college...that's just not required.

If tuition is covered, there is very little other expenses required to make it.

ps- you can get a refurbished computer from the school if you just ask.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by jsarno

Hold up...are you telling me there are no colleges near you at all? No community colleges you can commute to? There should be no need for room and board.
Yes, books are a part...buy used and save big.
Activity fees? What activities will you be doing? You should be focusing on school work and actual work, activities are a luxury.
The cost to apply is small. $39 I think.

Again, you go to night school and don't quit your job. You are assuming you need to quit your job and do what a 19 year old kid does when he moves to college...that's just not required.

If tuition is covered, there is very little other expenses required to make it.

ps- you can get a refurbished computer from the school if you just ask.

What if someone has kids? It's not that easy to just say go to night school.

[skinsguy]

Originally Posted by jsarno

Hold up...are you telling me there are no colleges near you at all? No community colleges you can commute to? There should be no need for room and board.
Yes, books are a part...buy used and save big.
Activity fees? What activities will you be doing? You should be focusing on school work and actual work, activities are a luxury.
The cost to apply is small. $39 I think.

Again, you go to night school and don't quit your job. You are assuming you need to quit your job and do what a 19 year old kid does when he moves to college...that's just not required.

If tuition is covered, there is very little other expenses required to make it.

ps- you can get a refurbished computer from the school if you just ask.

You obviously have no idea what you're talking about. Save big on used books? LOL!!!! When I was in college, I bought all of my books used and the average cost per book was $60. Every student is required to pay an activity fee. It might be called a technology fee, considering which college you go to, but this is not a luxury fee. It cost me $200 to apply to the college I graduated from. And I think you're assuming I'm only talking about adult students. I am talking about going to college in general. I had to drive an hour to the closest University just to avoid the high cost of room and board.

You can't just limit your scope to community college. In today's world, community college is just an extension of high school. The job market is so competitive, that even those with bachelor degrees often find it difficult to find work. A community college education is only effective in getting a student to the next level in education.

[jsarno]

Originally Posted by skinsguy

You obviously have no idea what you're talking about. Save big on used books? LOL!!!! When I was in college, I bought all of my books used and the average cost per book was $60. Every student is required to pay an activity fee. It might be called a technology fee, considering which college you go to, but this is not a luxury fee. It cost me $200 to apply to the college I graduated from. And I think you're assuming I'm only talking about adult students. I am talking about going to college in general. I had to drive an hour to the closest University just to avoid the high cost of room and board.

You can't just limit your scope to community college. In today's world, community college is just an extension of high school. The job market is so competitive, that even those with bachelor degrees often find it difficult to find work. A community college education is only effective in getting a student to the next level in education.

LOL...you obviously don't know what it takes to go to school at night and not live there. The last I knew (granted like 5 years ago) it was $39 to go to NMSU here in town. They offer associates degrees, and bachelor degrees without having to go to class during the day at all. I seriously doubt that we have the only college in the country that does that. You don't need to go to the BEST college in the area, save the money and go to cheaper college.
I have done it all man. I've lived at college (cost me $14k a semester), I've done night school (cost me 2k a semester), and I've done internet classes ($200 or so per class). You have preconceived notions of what college should be, and trust me, hundreds of thousands of older people are working full time and getting degrees at night.

I don't know what expensive college you are going to, but when I went to Harding University (14k a semester) I bought all my used books at around $20-$65 a book max. Also, there are ways to buy it from college students for even cheaper. You have to be willing to look. One semester I bought all my books from a couple students and spent maybe $100. Rough.
So again, I ask, if someone took care of your tuition, you couldn't find a way to pay for books? Give me a break man.

[skinsguy]

Originally Posted by jsarno

LOL...you obviously don't know what it takes to go to school at night and not live there.

I obviously do since I've done so.

Originally Posted by jsarno

save the money and go to cheaper college.
I have done it all man. I've lived at college (cost me $14k a semester), I've done night school (cost me 2k a semester), and I've done internet classes ($200 or so per class). You have preconceived notions of what college should be, and trust me, hundreds of thousands of older people are working full time and getting degrees at night.

You know absolutely nothing about my area, so don't say, "save money and go to a cheaper college." I went to the closest college I could commute to. It wasn't me choosing the best, most expensive college. It was me choosing the closest one that offered a bachelors degree in my career of study. You are also assuming I know nothing about working and going to college at the same time. I have worked six and seven day weeks while being a full time student AND maintaining my spot on the Dean's list. Just because things were/are cheaper in your area doesn't mean this is so everywhere else.

Originally Posted by jsarno

I don't know what expensive college you are going to, but when I went to Harding University (14k a semester) I bought all my used books at around $20-$65 a book max. Also, there are ways to buy it from college students for even cheaper. You have to be willing to look. One semester I bought all my books from a couple students and spent maybe $100. Rough.
So again, I ask, if someone took care of your tuition, you couldn't find a way to pay for books? Give me a break man.

Who are you to say I didn't do this? Because I had to pay more for my textbooks than you did doesn't mean I wasn't willing to look. Please don't get a self-righteous attitude that everybody else is lazy and unwilling to help themselves.

And anyway, all that wasn't even my point on college. My point is, free tuition programs are great if you can qualify, but tuition is just a part of the cost of college.

[jsarno]

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[skinsguy]

Originally Posted by jsarno

Whatever dude...again I say, if your tuition is paid for don't you think you'd find a way to pay for the SMALL other costs????
You can argue all those other things all you want, but there is also online college like university of phoenix. You're acting as if going to college costs you a million dollars, but in fact, if you commute, and you have tuition paid for, there is no excuse not to go and the cost is easy to afford for anyone that has a job. That is not debatable for as much as you would like to debate it. Your main argument was room and board, but I have said a slew of times to commute and go at night. So even at your standards, 5 classes times $60 a book, that's $300...another $200 (rip off) for whatever you called it, and you're at $500. So you feel the need to spread the word that tuition isn't all of it, even though it's around 95%-97% or more of it?????? Yeah, good argument. Might as well tell everyone to keep doing what they are doing cause there is no hope.

Where did I say my tuition was paid for? I certainly never said that. In fact, I'm still paying on it. Secondly, you're the one who said there were programs out there that paid for your college in full. And I'm simply stating that there are other fees that go along with funding college other than tuition. That isn't up for debate. That is fact.