Redskins vs. Patriots game thread

[skinsnut]

I need to own up.
I am a lifetime Gibbs fan but I made the statement unless there was a dramatic move in offensive philosophy this game to deal with the OLine issues....such as change the starters or go heavy shotgun/hurry up, I would lose faith in him...
Well....not only did Gibbs not adjust the offense, GW didn't either.

Guys....it is not just player performance.
The coaches did not put the players in a position to compete with better talent.
This was obvious to all of us...and we don't get 5 million a year.

I have officially off the "give Gibbs the benefit of the doubt" bandwagon.

[SC Skins Fan]

Originally Posted by skinsnut

I need to own up.
I am a lifetime Gibbs fan but I made the statement unless there was a dramatic move in offensive philosophy this game to deal with the OLine issues....such as change the starters or go heavy shotgun/hurry up, I would lose faith in him...
Well....not only did Gibbs not adjust the offense, GW didn't either.

Guys....it is not just player performance.
The coaches did not put the players in a position to compete with better talent.
This was obvious to all of us...and we don't get 5 million a year.

I have officially off the "give Gibbs the benefit of the doubt" bandwagon.

You need the personnel to do those things. The Skins did come out and try got throw the ball today. You didn't see them going run, run, pass, punt. They could not apparently get open downfield, however, and JC held the ball, got hit, and fumbled. You don't think those plays where he fumbled were downfield patterns? What do you want? What you saw today was a perfect example of why it is so important for the Skins to run the ball and why their inability to do so might just kill their season. They just are not good enough throwing the ball right now to go and do so consistently. The result is getting yourself into 2nd and 3rd and long situations which is just setting yourself up for failure. There is only so much a coaching staff can do. Remember also that bringing in a new coaching staff means a new offense, a new defense, turnover in personnel, etc. There is no magic bullet here fellas. If I were the coaching staff I wouldn't even have the players watch film of the Pats game. I would just move on to the Jets and put this game in the past forever. I'm sure others will disagree, but that is my opinion.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by SC Skins Fan

You need the personnel to do those things. The Skins did come out and try got throw the ball today. You didn't see them going run, run, pass, punt. They could not apparently get open downfield, however, and JC held the ball, got hit, and fumbled. You don't think those plays where he fumbled were downfield patterns? What do you want? What you saw today was a perfect example of why it is so important for the Skins to run the ball and why their inability to do so might just kill their season. They just are not good enough throwing the ball right now to go and do so consistently. The result is getting yourself into 2nd and 3rd and long situations which is just setting yourself up for failure. There is only so much a coaching staff can do. Remember also that bringing in a new coaching staff means a new offense, a new defense, turnover in personnel, etc. There is no magic bullet here fellas. If I were the coaching staff I wouldn't even have the players watch film of the Pats game. I would just move on to the Jets and put this game in the past forever. I'm sure others will disagree, but that is my opinion.

Good post

[GusFrerotte]

Originally Posted by SC Skins Fan

You need the personnel to do those things. The Skins did come out and try got throw the ball today. You didn't see them going run, run, pass, punt. They could not apparently get open downfield, however, and JC held the ball, got hit, and fumbled. You don't think those plays where he fumbled were downfield patterns? What do you want? What you saw today was a perfect example of why it is so important for the Skins to run the ball and why their inability to do so might just kill their season. They just are not good enough throwing the ball right now to go and do so consistently. The result is getting yourself into 2nd and 3rd and long situations which is just setting yourself up for failure. There is only so much a coaching staff can do. Remember also that bringing in a new coaching staff means a new offense, a new defense, turnover in personnel, etc. There is no magic bullet here fellas. If I were the coaching staff I wouldn't even have the players watch film of the Pats game. I would just move on to the Jets and put this game in the past forever. I'm sure others will disagree, but that is my opinion.

I don't agree. We do have the personnell to have a wide open passing attack. Sure Llyod is a waste now, but Moss posted OK numbers finally, as did Randle El. We need Caldwell and McCardell in the mix. With all of these guys we have a very deep WR corp. Our top tier O line is banged up, but it should not affect our offensive performance so dramatically as it has. Our coaching staff is totally overpaid and overhyped. You say to forget this game and move on. I agree with that, but folks need to also forget Gibbs I and move on also. In that I mean this "Gibbs is God, Gibbs is unfallible crap should go with it as well. Gibbs and co were schooled today, and didn't even make any adjustments to mount any sort of comeback or at least try and make it half way competitive.