It's only one game, get over it

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by SUNRA

But how do you feel about the overall team's belief in Joe Gibbs after the way we loss? Is he that out of touch with how to run an offense and communicate that to Sanders?

As much as people want to deny it, injuries can't be overlooked. Further, Jason Campbell had a terrible game today. Just awful. Does Campbell fumbling the way he did mean that Gibbs is out of touch? Nonsense

[SFREDSKIN]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

As much as people want to deny it, injuries can't be overlooked. Further, Jason Campbell had a terrible game today. Just awful. Does Campbell fumbling the way he did mean that Gibbs is out of touch? Nonsense

I think Belichick did what does best, he focuses on the opponents weakness (in this case Campbell, because of his inexperience) and masterfully rattled him.

[SUNRA]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

As much as people want to deny it, injuries can't be overlooked. Further, Jason Campbell had a terrible game today. Just awful. Does Campbell fumbling the way he did mean that Gibbs is out of touch? Nonsense

Yes, Joe Gibbs is out of touch. This was the same offense we have seen for the pass three weeks except it could't in the endzone until the second string defense of the Patriots hit the field. Gibbs admitted himself that he was responsible for the conservative playcalling that almost lost the game last week. Just look at the third down plays and you can predict who Campbell is going to pass to. Gibbs has not adjusted to what defenses are willing to gamble on which is the run. Portis is fucking finished with no 100yd games yet. Yes the offensive line is hurt but Betts deserves to get the most reps after this game. Everyone knows the offense is pathetic and cannot score more than 21 points on an average. That is Gibbs responsibilty as an offensive minded coach.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by SUNRA

Yes, Joe Gibbs is out of touch. This was the same offense we have seen for the pass three weeks except it could't in the endzone until the second string defense of the Patriots hit the field. Gibbs admitted himself that he was responsible for the conservative playcalling that almost lost the game last week. Just look at the third down plays and you can predict who Campbell is going to pass to. Gibbs has not adjusted to what defenses are willing to gamble on which is the run. Portis is fucking finished with no 100yd games yet. Yes the offensive line is hurt but Betts deserves to get the most reps after this game. Everyone knows the offense is pathetic and cannot score more than 21 points on an average. That is Gibbs responsibilty as an offensive minded coach.

Well we're just going to disagree on this I guess

[SUNRA]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Well we're just going to disagree on this I guess

No Problem.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by SUNRA

Yes, Joe Gibbs is out of touch. This was the same offense we have seen for the pass three weeks except it could't in the endzone until the second string defense of the Patriots hit the field. Gibbs admitted himself that he was responsible for the conservative playcalling that almost lost the game last week. Just look at the third down plays and you can predict who Campbell is going to pass to. Gibbs has not adjusted to what defenses are willing to gamble on which is the run. Portis is fucking finished with no 100yd games yet. Yes the offensive line is hurt but Betts deserves to get the most reps after this game. Everyone knows the offense is pathetic and cannot score more than 21 points on an average. That is Gibbs responsibilty as an offensive minded coach.

Pats are a waaaaaaaaaaaay better team than we are. Plain and simple.

[SUNRA]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Pats are a waaaaaaaaaaaay better team than we are. Plain and simple.

Yes I agree. But were the Giants or how about the Packers waaaaaaaaaay better than the Redskins? See this offense started this downward spiral weeks ago and nothing has changed. Instead of preparing a different scheme for New England, New England caught the defense off guard with three or four running plays when we were expecting a pass happy offense. How many times did we see the hitch play thrown to Moss today for no gain. Gibbs went away from the deep pass too often after Campbell missed a couple of makeable plays. And that was the end of our aggressive offensive playcalling in the first half.

Instead of talking about how good the team the team is, we need to talk about how Joe Gibbs was out-coached. That's why he ran off the field without shaking hands with Belicheck. I have not respect for any man who isn't man enough to shake with the opponent after they dominated your team start to finish.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by SUNRA

Yes I agree. But were the Giants or how about the Packers waaaaaaaaaay better than the Redskins? See this offense started this downward spiral weeks ago and nothing has changed. Instead of preparing a different scheme for New England, New England caught the defense off guard with three or four running plays when we were expecting a pass happy offense. How many times did we see the hitch play thrown to Moss today for no gain. Gibbs went away from the deep pass too often after Campbell missed a couple of makeable plays. And that was the end of our aggressive offensive playcalling in the first half.

Instead of talking about how good the team the team is, we need to talk about how Joe Gibbs was out-coached. That's why he ran off the field without shaking hands with Belicheck. I have not respect for any man who isn't man enough to shake with the opponent after they dominated your team start to finish.

Personally, as much as I love Gibbs the person, I don't think he is a good coach in his 2nd go around. He should just go upstairs and be team president.

However, I think that is unlike Gibbs to not shake hands with anyone. Can you confirm this?

[JWsleep]

Originally Posted by SUNRA

Yes I agree. But were the Giants or how about the Packers waaaaaaaaaay better than the Redskins? See this offense started this downward spiral weeks ago and nothing has changed. Instead of preparing a different scheme for New England, New England caught the defense off guard with three or four running plays when we were expecting a pass happy offense. How many times did we see the hitch play thrown to Moss today for no gain. Gibbs went away from the deep pass too often after Campbell missed a couple of makeable plays. And that was the end of our aggressive offensive playcalling in the first half.

Instead of talking about how good the team the team is, we need to talk about how Joe Gibbs was out-coached. That's why he ran off the field without shaking hands with Belicheck. I have not respect for any man who isn't man enough to shake with the opponent after they dominated your team start to finish.

If this is how you feel, fine. I disagree. But stop with the handshake stuff. He shook his hand. It wasn't on the camera.

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by SUNRA

Yes, Joe Gibbs is out of touch. This was the same offense we have seen for the pass three weeks except it could't in the endzone until the second string defense of the Patriots hit the field. Gibbs admitted himself that he was responsible for the conservative playcalling that almost lost the game last week. Just look at the third down plays and you can predict who Campbell is going to pass to. Gibbs has not adjusted to what defenses are willing to gamble on which is the run. Portis is fucking finished with no 100yd games yet. Yes the offensive line is hurt but Betts deserves to get the most reps after this game. Everyone knows the offense is pathetic and cannot score more than 21 points on an average. That is Gibbs responsibilty as an offensive minded coach.

I'm not sure if its Gibbs or JC not seeing the field. When I was at the Giants game JC missed a ton of open players and he still is. He has not had a great game all year. I know he is young but its time he starts showing signs of getting better.

[The Zimmermans]

Originally Posted by firstdown

I'm not sure if its Gibbs or JC not seeing the field. When I was at the Giants game JC missed a ton of open players and he still is. He has not had a great game all year. I know he is young but its time he starts showing signs of getting better.

IF THE COACHES SHOW NO CONFIDENCE IN JC, HOW IS JC SUPPOSED TO HAVE CONFIDENCE?

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by The Zimmermans

IF THE COACHES SHOW NO CONFIDENCE IN JC, HOW IS JC SUPPOSED TO HAVE CONFIDENCE?

Well in the Giants game which I was at so I'll stick with that game the coaches gave him plenty of chances to make some plays. From where I sat JC was just not finding the open WR's and was dumping the ball off. Even my wife asked on several plays why we did not throw the ball to wide open WR"S. Its harder to see on TV if he is just not seeing the field but the game I was at it seemed that way. He is young so I'm not getting on him but people do have to remember that he is still learning.

[dgack]

Originally Posted by firstdown

I'm not sure if its Gibbs or JC not seeing the field. When I was at the Giants game JC missed a ton of open players and he still is. He has not had a great game all year. I know he is young but its time he starts showing signs of getting better.

Yeah, the Detroit game was terrible. How could we possibly be satisfied with a QB rating of 125 and a record of 4-3 from a player in his first full season and half his starting O-Line out.

Screw that guy, we need to call Jeff George right away.