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[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by skinsguy

What is your point with college? What can't be done? What is NMSU? By the way, I paid my tuition...it wasn't free. Yeah, I bet you $200 to $300 per credit hour.

This might help

http://fa.nmsu.edu/forms/coa0607.pdf

[skinsguy]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

This might help

http://fa.nmsu.edu/forms/coa0607.pdf

Thanks SS. And it proved my point. Thanks for that.

[jsarno]

Originally Posted by skinsguy

Thanks SS. And it proved my point. Thanks for that.

Please explain how that proved your point? I am not sure you know what the arguement is about here.

BTW- by your last comment, you obviously jumped into the argument not knowing the base.
We were talking about a program that paid for your tuition, all you needed to do was come up with whatever other expenses there were, which are minor.

ps- $889 for NEW books per year is damn cheap. Cut that in half for used books and you're looking at around $225 per semester.

So let's look at the figures SS supplied for us. (BTW NMSU is a branch here in Carlsbad)
$1162 - Tuition and fees
$4602 - Room and board
$889 - Books and supplies
$1980 - Personal expenses
$1500 - Transportation

Take away Tuition if you are on the program we were discussing, take away room and board because I already live here as does everyone that goes to NMSU in Carlsbad. Personal Expenses is for financial aid purposes, but that is why you work a full time job to pay for your own personal expenses. Transportation is taken care of by yourself as well. That leaves approx. $225 per semester (as I showed by cutting books in half by buying used). I'll even throw in a few more dollars and bring it to $500 per year.
If you can't afford $500 a year to go to college, there is nothing you can afford.
Nice link SS. Thanks.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by jsarno

Please explain how that proved your point? I am not sure you know what the arguement is about here.

BTW- by your last comment, you obviously jumped into the argument not knowing the base.
We were talking about a program that paid for your tuition, all you needed to do was come up with whatever other expenses there were, which are minor.

ps- $889 for NEW books per year is damn cheap. Cut that in half for used books and you're looking at around $225 per semester.

So let's look at the figures SS supplied for us. (BTW NMSU is a branch here in Carlsbad)
$1162 - Tuition and fees
$4602 - Room and board
$889 - Books and supplies
$1980 - Personal expenses
$1500 - Transportation

Take away Tuition if you are on the program we were discussing, take away room and board because I already live here as does everyone that goes to NMSU in Carlsbad. Personal Expenses is for financial aid purposes, but that is why you work a full time job to pay for your own personal expenses. Transportation is taken care of by yourself as well. That leaves approx. $225 per semester (as I showed by cutting books in half by buying used). I'll even throw in a few more dollars and bring it to $500 per year.
If you can't afford $500 a year to go to college, there is nothing you can afford.
Nice link SS. Thanks.

That's $4369/year in non-tuition expenses. That's not exactly chump change.

[jsarno]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

That's $4369/year in non-tuition expenses. That's not exactly chump change.

LOL...you obviously didn't read my post. Where is that transportation cost? That is for financial aid purposes...you don't pay that to the college...come on matty, use the noggin. If you want, I can supply you with the phone number and you can ask them to pick you up for that "transportation cost". LOL.
Same for personal expenses...do you write a check for "personal expenses" to the college, or do you pay for personal expenses cause they are just that...personal expenses????? That is alotted in the financial aid, not something is out of pocket up front.

You guys are too funny.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by jsarno

LOL...you obviously didn't read my post. Where is that transportation cost? That is for financial aid purposes...you don't pay that to the college...come on matty, use the noggin.
Same for personal expenses...do you write a check for "personal expenses" to the college, or do you pay for personal expenses cause they are just that...personal expenses????? That is alotted in the financial aid, not something is out of pocket up front.

You guys are too funny.

Wow you really are dense at times.

Let me lay it out for you. When I was going to school at night for my MBA, it required me to drive an extra 20 miles or so each day out of my way going back and forth to school. That's extra gas money and wear and tear on the car. Hence, I had a transportation expense.

[jsarno]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Wow you really are dense at times.

Let me lay it out for you. When I was going to school at night for my MBA, it required me to drive an extra 20 miles or so each day out of my way going back and forth to school. That's extra gas money and wear and tear on the car. Hence, I had a transportation expense.

OK...whatever Matty. It is you that is dense arguing this my friend.
ps- I live about 1 mile from NMSU, and anyone that lives in Carlsbad lives less than 10 miles from NMSU. If you can go to the movies, or out to eat, or out with your friends, why do you insist on calculating the miles?
So by using this in your argument, you are telling me that you would NEVER go out after work, you would go home ONLY...thus the transportation costs become relevant???? Doubt it.

How many times do I need to prove the point that other expenses are nothing if your tuition is paid for and you don't need to pay for room and board????? That's the whole point...nothing like splitting hairs huh matty?

pps- 20 miles out of your way with a vehicle that gets 20 MPG is about $2.79 now-a-days. If you go 2-3 times a week as most do that's $8.37 (at 3 times a week). You go for approx. 7 months out of the year, so that's $234.36. You wanna try another useless argument?

So now the tally is approx $500 for book over the year and $250 for gas (although I am sure your car gets better than 20mpg.) So we're up to $750 for the year with tuition paid for...I guess people should sit on their ass cause it's too damn expensive. PFFFFF. The $750 divided by the 8 months of school or so you go means a cost of apprx $93.75 per month. OUCH.

[jsarno]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

When I was going to school at night for my MBA, it required me to drive an extra 20 miles

I did mine online, cost me $25 a month for internet service.

[skinsguy]

Originally Posted by jsarno

Please explain how that proved your point? I am not sure you know what the arguement is about here.

BTW- by your last comment, you obviously jumped into the argument not knowing the base.
We were talking about a program that paid for your tuition, all you needed to do was come up with whatever other expenses there were, which are minor.

ps- $889 for NEW books per year is damn cheap. Cut that in half for used books and you're looking at around $225 per semester.

So let's look at the figures SS supplied for us. (BTW NMSU is a branch here in Carlsbad)
$1162 - Tuition and fees
$4602 - Room and board
$889 - Books and supplies
$1980 - Personal expenses
$1500 - Transportation

Take away Tuition if you are on the program we were discussing, take away room and board because I already live here as does everyone that goes to NMSU in Carlsbad. Personal Expenses is for financial aid purposes, but that is why you work a full time job to pay for your own personal expenses. Transportation is taken care of by yourself as well. That leaves approx. $225 per semester (as I showed by cutting books in half by buying used). I'll even throw in a few more dollars and bring it to $500 per year.
If you can't afford $500 a year to go to college, there is nothing you can afford.
Nice link SS. Thanks.

You're acting like that's pocket change. And, really, not everybody lives within a descent communting distance of a university. Moreover, most, if not all of those government programs that pay for tuition require you to attend full time. While some of us (like myself) are smart enough and strong enough to work full time while attending college full time, I wouldn't recommend that to everyone. It's academic suicide for most students.