Classless Coach Belichick

[CHIEF CHUCKING MY SPEAR]

get over it. Maybe gibbs will learn a lesson. Never let you foot of the opponents throat. Its the defense's job to stop the pats. But they couldnt do it so too bad. Its time for the skins to stop crying and wins some damn games. Did we stop trying to score we were down 38-0?? No then why should they. Maybe that why the pats are winners and we are at best .500 team.

[Sheriff Gonna Getcha]

Originally Posted by CHIEF CHUCKING MY SPEAR

get over it. Maybe gibbs will learn a lesson. Never let you foot of the opponents throat. Its the defense's job to stop the pats. But they couldnt do it so too bad. Its time for the skins to stop crying and wins some damn games. Did we stop trying to score we were down 38-0?? No then why should they. Maybe that why the pats are winners and we are at best .500 team.

Or maybe it's the reason why everyone thinks the Pats lack class. It's akin to beating a guy in a boxing match and then just stomping on his head as he sits there motionless. Sorry, but that's a punk move.

Also, FYI 4-3 is above .500.

Finally, I'm tired of hearing people say that we are crying like babies for calling the Pats out for showing no class. I'm not crying, I'm pissed. Perhaps you cry when you are angry, but I don't.

[12thMan]

Originally Posted by Sheriff Gonna Getcha

Or maybe it's the reason why everyone thinks the Pats lack class. It's akin to beating a guy in a boxing match and then just stomping on his head as he sits there motionless. Sorry, but that's a punk move.

Also, FYI 4-3 is above .500.

Finally, I'm tired of hearing people say that we are crying like babies for calling the Pats out for showing no class. I'm not crying, I'm pissed. Perhaps you cry when you are angry, but I don't.

SBF, here's where I split with the masses on this issue. In your example, and trust me I'm not trying to nit pick here, but you said if a guy is down and get's stomped (paraphrase after two glasses of wine), then that's a classless act. I agree there. I think classless, by my own definition, is when the other guy can't do anything about it or there is clear disadvantage. Sure, BB in his heart probably has ill intentions not entirely directed at the Redskins or coach Gibbs, mind you, but there was no clear disadvangtage on our part. So I don't really see where he was being so classless. Is he bitter? Perhaps. Classless, I don't know.

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by Sheriff Gonna Getcha

Or maybe it's the reason why everyone thinks the Pats lack class. It's akin to beating a guy in a boxing match and then just stomping on his head as he sits there motionless. Sorry, but that's a punk move.

Also, FYI 4-3 is above .500.

Finally, I'm tired of hearing people say that we are crying like babies for calling the Pats out for showing no class. I'm not crying, I'm pissed. Perhaps you cry when you are angry, but I don't.

We're seeing eye to eye on this one. While I do agree that it's our job to stop them, having Brady in the game and going for it on 4th down when it's 42-0 and their on the 40-something yard line is a total punk move.

Numerous players, including LT, just about the classiest guy around, has called out Belichick for this kinda stuff. Oh yeah, he also cheats and then lies about it. I'm really pissed too. Frankly I'd like punch him straight in his smug little smirk. Assbag.

At the same time, I think we have a massive amount of work to do. We all knew going into this game our offense had and continues to have major issues. Now we lose Rogers for the year and get completely trampled on D?? If some things don't start changing I could definitely see us ending up as an average, .500 team.

[724Skinsfan]

Running up the score is definitely classless. Once you've shown your opponent that the game is decided in your favor you back off, put in your replacements and let the game finish. That's learned by most humans in Little League Sports 101.

I can't say I was/am pissed about it, I know some people are just naturally weak and can't control the urge to rub it in...that's life. We all run into these types of peole in just about every facet of life. Best thing to do is pay him no mind. I do feel annoyed and dissappointed simply because there are probably more than a few kids in the Boston area that will learn from this and think it's okay. Oh well, there's a correlation to more time spent on the field and injuries suffered. Play your guys when you don't to and you can be sure sooner or later a knee will blow out or a shoulder will seperate or....

[Beemnseven]

I have no problem with the Patriots offense doing what offenses are supposed to do -- score points. It is not the job of any offense to deliberately not make it into the endzone just to make the opposing team feel better.

If you don't want the score to be run up then stop them, or shut up.

How about this... if a team that is ahead by an absurd margin agrees not to "run up the score", should the other team also agree not to try to score?

[skinsguy]

Originally Posted by Beemnseven

I have no problem with the Patriots offense doing what offenses are supposed to do -- score points. It is not the job of any offense to deliberately not make it into the endzone just to make the opposing team feel better.

If you don't want the score to be run up then stop them, or shut up.

How about this... if a team that is ahead by an absurd margin agrees not to "run up the score", should the other team also agree not to try to score?

Or how about this: leave your starters in and risk a desperate defense seriously injuring your star player. After all, what would they have to lose at that point? Classless? Possibly, but if an offense is there to score points, the defense is there to stop them.

[TheBigD]

Originally Posted by Sheriff Gonna Getcha

Or maybe it's the reason why everyone thinks the Pats lack class. It's akin to beating a guy in a boxing match and then just stomping on his head as he sits there motionless. Sorry, but that's a punk move.

I was listening to the John Thompson Show on sports talk 980 and he was saying what I was thinking. Be quiet and play, why beg for mercy. He gave examples of the Skins running the score on the Giants and their 45-0 win against Detroit years back. Why do overpaid men want sports teams to take it easy one them? I am not too fond of the Redskins, obviously, but I really wanted them to beat the crap out of NE. I wanted the Skins D to beat up on Brady. The whole week leading up to it, it was our safties this and our safeties that. How can they let Brady their back up QB score running TDs?

BTW, the example you gave doesn't apply to this situation. The game was not over, maybe the Redskins thought it was but it actually wasn't.

Finally, I'm tired of hearing people say that we are crying like babies for calling the Pats out for showing no class. I'm not crying, I'm pissed. Perhaps you cry when you are angry, but I don't.

I think you are not getting it right. In this case, crying is more like whining. I have no problem people here whining, but players, come on.

[dgack]

Originally Posted by TheBigD

I think you are not getting it right. In this case, crying is more like whining. I have no problem people here whining, but players, come on.

First of all, Godfrey was the only one who said anything, and the dude's a veteran. I believe he used to wear your colors, hmmm...

Second, the other players and the coaches all said "the right thing" and said they didn't do enough to stop the Pats. So let's not start projecting a bunch of message board angst onto the team. But don't get it twisted, either -- everyone on that team knows what New England did to them, and everyone on the Patriots knows full well what they are doing to other teams. I'll say it again, karma is a bitch.

Third, there are PLENTY of people who are not Redskins fans who have called this what it is, and it's running up the score. We can all argue over whether sports commentators know what the hell they're talking about or not, but there's really no question that most commentators outside of Boston are taking notice of what this team is doing. I've even read some stories from the Boston media that refer to it as Belichick "raising a middle finger to the NFL".

And let's not forget that during the Ol' Ball Coach's brief run, we were accused of running up the score in that exhibition game.

CJOnline.com | Handheld Version | Spurrier answering questions about running up score 08/07/02

I thought it was an arrogant and tacky move then when we did it, and I think it's arrogant and tacky now. When the day comes that a key player gets injured late in a game where they're pulling this BS, you better believe the second-guessing will start flying.

[#56fanatic]

Originally Posted by TheBigD

I was listening to the John Thompson Show on sports talk 980 and he was saying what I was thinking. Be quiet and play, why beg for mercy. He gave examples of the Skins running the score on the Giants and their 45-0 win against Detroit years back. Why do overpaid men want sports teams to take it easy one them? I am not too fond of the Redskins, obviously, but I really wanted them to beat the crap out of NE. I wanted the Skins D to beat up on Brady. The whole week leading up to it, it was our safties this and our safeties that. How can they let Brady their back up QB score running TDs?

BTW, the example you gave doesn't apply to this situation. The game was not over, maybe the Redskins thought it was but it actually wasn't.

I think you are not getting it right. In this case, crying is more like whining. I have no problem people here whining, but players, come on.

There was a nice little article on what you said on PFT i believe. To discount what you are saying, A Joe Gibbs team WILL NOT humiliate an oponent by running up the score. the Detroit game we ran the ball from mid 3rd quarter until end of the game. When we ran the ball down to the 2, we knelt down so we wouldn't score. The 49ers game from 2005, we didn't throw a pass after mid 3rd quarter, portis didn't touch the ball the 2nd half. and Ramsey played the last quarter or more. I dont want anyone saying Gibbs ran the score up on anyone, never happened, never will. Even if we played NE tomorrow and we up 38-0 in the 3rd, he would sit on the ball. He would not go for revenge, he would show class something the other dickhead knows nothing about.

[12thMan]

Originally Posted by #56fanatic

There was a nice little article on what you said on PFT i believe. To discount what you are saying, A Joe Gibbs team WILL NOT humiliate an oponent by running up the score. the Detroit game we ran the ball from mid 3rd quarter until end of the game. When we ran the ball down to the 2, we knelt down so we wouldn't score. The 49ers game from 2005, we didn't throw a pass after mid 3rd quarter, portis didn't touch the ball the 2nd half. and Ramsey played the last quarter or more. I dont want anyone saying Gibbs ran the score up on anyone, never happened, never will. Even if we played NE tomorrow and we up 38-0 in the 3rd, he would sit on the ball. He would not go for revenge, he would show class something the other dickhead knows nothing about.

Maybe it's about damn time we start humiliating someone, dontcha think? By the way, Wilbon has nice article about all this too.

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