Classless Coach Belichick

[SmootSmack]

We did, we ran the ball on something like 23 of the last 25 plays from scrimmage. Including the entire 4th Quarter.

I think Ramsey played the 4th as well as Betts and Cartwright (who were clearly backups in 2005)

[Monkeydad]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

We did, we ran the ball on something like 23 of the last 25 plays from scrimmage. Including the entire 4th Quarter.

I think Ramsey played the 4th as well as Betts and Cartwright (who were clearly backups in 2005)

Yep. Betts came in and ran all over the Niners, so we rested him for Cartwright and he even scored a TD on them. Ramsey ran 3 times (for -3 yards) and passed only once as we tried to run the clock out by running. Unfortunately, they still let us move the ball and score...not great for running the clock out.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by Buster

Yep. Betts came in and ran all over the Niners, so we rested him for Cartwright and he even scored a TD on them. Ramsey ran 3 times (for -3 yards) and passed only once as we tried to run the clock out by running. Unfortunately, they still let us move the ball and score...not great for running the clock out.

Here we go again...... The bottom line is NE has a different mentality than us. They put in the back-ups to score. Has Matt Cassell ever throw a pass in the NFL? I don't think he has. So what good does it do to bring the guy in to hand the damn ball off? Get the guy some well needed game experience and try to score. What if Brady gets hurt? Get the next guy ready and the only way to do that is get him on the field during a game and let him throw some.

When we played SF it would have made sense to have Ramsey throw some passes so he could get some more game experience and knock off some rust. Why go in and hand it off so the opponent can kill your RB? It makes no damn sense. Again, it's the defenses responsibility to get off the field and stop the offense.

If I were coaching the Redskins ( and thank god I'm not) I would have pulled Randall Godrey aside and lit into his ass for crying like a little bitch. He has no balls what so ever and as far as I'm concerned ship his sorry ass back to Dallas.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Here we go again...... The bottom line is NE has a different mentality than us. They put in the back-ups to score. Has Matt Cassell ever throw a pass in the NFL? I don't think he has. So what good does it do to bring the guy in to hand the damn ball off? Get the guy some well needed game experience and try to score. What if Brady gets hurt? Get the next guy ready and the only way to do that is get him on the field during a game and let him throw some.

When we played SF it would have made sense to have Ramsey throw some passes so he could get some more game experience and knock off some rust. Why go in and hand it off so the opponent is waiting for you to run it and kill your RB? It makes no damn sense. Again, it's the defenses responsibility to get off the field and stop the offense.

If I were coaching the Redskins ( and thank god I'm not) I would have pulled Randall Godrey aside and lit into his ass for crying like a little bitch. He has no balls what so ever and as far as I'm concerned ship his sorry ass back to Dallas.

Your mentality, and the mentality of the Patriots is not the norm in the NFL. Most teams with a big lead will pull starters and milk the clock. And most importantly, they don't go for it on 4th down when they are in FG range.

I know you don't agree, but that's what most teams do, and that's why people including myself were a little irked with how the Patriots went about things on Sunday.

[Beemnseven]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Your mentality, and the mentality of the Patriots is not the norm in the NFL. Most teams with a big lead will pull starters and milk the clock. And most importantly, they don't go for it on 4th down when they are in FG range.

I know you don't agree, but that's what most teams do, and that's why people including myself were a little irked with how the Patriots went about things on Sunday.

So you would have been less "irked" if they had tried for a field goal and the final score is 49-7 instead of 52-7?

What's the cut-off point for being "irked" at the score, and being okay with it?

As we can see, the Patriots aren't anywhere close to the 'norm' in this league. Maybe more teams should adopt this mentality, rather than cry about it.

[TheBigD]

Originally Posted by Beemnseven

So you would have been less "irked" if they had tried for a field goal and the final score is 49-7 instead of 52-7?

What's the cut-off point for being "irked" at the score, and being okay with it?

As we can see, the Patriots aren't anywhere close to the 'norm' in this league. Maybe more teams should adopt this mentality, rather than cry about it.

LOL...how is a FG worth 4 points?

I agree with you and Skinsfan69. Why didn't anyone say something when they did that to other teams like the 0-6 Dolphins, no one thought that was classless. I am not sure but I think the Skins D had their image shaken and that is what they don't like. Up untill that game, the D was regarded highly and many thought could survive against good teams. I am not hearing much crying from the offensive side of the ball. The D gave up late in the game and expected NE to do the same.

[Beemnseven]

Originally Posted by TheBigD

LOL...how is a FG worth 4 points?

Check your math, Cowchip fan. 52 - 49 = 3.

[ArtMonkDrillz]

Originally Posted by TheBigD

LOL...how is a FG worth 4 points?

I agree with you and Skinsfan69. Why didn't anyone say something when they did that to other teams like the 0-6 Dolphins, no one thought that was classless. I am not sure but I think the Skins D had their image shaken and that is what they don't like. Up untill that game, the D was regarded highly and many thought could survive against good teams. I am not hearing much crying from the offensive side of the ball. The D gave up late in the game and expected NE to do the same.

Honestly, their D clearly backed off at the end of the game and that's how we were able to drive for the touchdown and avoid the shut out.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Beemnseven

So you would have been less "irked" if they had tried for a field goal and the final score is 49-7 instead of 52-7?

What's the cut-off point for being "irked" at the score, and being okay with it?

As we can see, the Patriots aren't anywhere close to the 'norm' in this league. Maybe more teams should adopt this mentality, rather than cry about it.

You missed my point, the score didn't tick me off, the fact that they were going for it on 4th down and throwing bombs down the field with a huge lead is what annoyed me. I know, I know, stop them if you don't want them doing that sort of thing. Actually even if we stopped them it would have annoyed me. I would have been thinking what the hell are they doing going for it on 4th down?!

It wasn't the end result, just the way they went about their business not just Sunday but all season that irks me. Belichick seems to be on a personal mission to embarrass the entire league since he himself was embarrassed over the cheating scandal. I'm just not a big fan of him.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Your mentality, and the mentality of the Patriots is not the norm in the NFL. Most teams with a big lead will pull starters and milk the clock. And most importantly, they don't go for it on 4th down when they are in FG range.

I know you don't agree, but that's what most teams do, and that's why people including myself were a little irked with how the Patriots went about things on Sunday.

Well I have heard 3 former Redskins in the last 24 hours say too bad and deal with it. Actually 4. Mark Scherleth (sp?) was on ESPN and he killed the Redskins. Bob Golic too. So when you have players who played the game at the highest level saying they had no problem with what NE did then you have to wonder.

Plus if they kicked the FG people would still be crying, and NE did pull the starters.

[ArtMonkDrillz]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Well I have heard 3 former Redskins in the last 24 hours say too bad and deal with it. Actually 4. Mark Scherleth (sp?) was on ESPN and he killed the Redskins. Bob Golic too. So when you have players who played the game at the highest level saying they had no problem with what NE did then you have to wonder.

Plus if they kicked the FG people would still be crying, and NE did pull the starters.

Well, I heard Steve Young and Tom Jackson say it was wrong. So when you have players who played the game at the highest level saying they had a problem with what NE did then you have to wonder.

I would have had no problem with them kicking the field goal just like I had no problem with their backup trying to score because that is vastly different than having your starters throwing deep when you're already up by 7 scores.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by ArtMonkDrillz

Well, I heard Steve Young and Tom Jackson say it was wrong. So when you have players who played the game at the highest level saying they had a problem with what NE did then you have to wonder.

I would have had no problem with them kicking the field goal just like I had no problem with their backup trying to score because that is vastly different than having your starters throwing deep when you're already up by 7 scores.

Your right. I saw Tom J. and Steve Y on ESPN saying "it was wrong" and "you don't need to do that." So there are two sides.

I just think we need to adopt a different mentality around here. I mean our coaching staff makes more $ than anyone yet I feel we are one of the more poorly coached team in the NFL.

Would you ever see us do a fake spike and then try to score? No. Would you ever see us try a trick play on special teams? Fake FG, or punt? No. Would you eve see us come out in a hurry up offense? No. Would you ever see us try and get the backs more involved in the passing game besides throwing screens? No. Do we ever put the Qb in shotgun on 1st down, just to give the defense something else to think about? No.

I could go on and on. My point is that should have been the attitude we should have had going up to NE. Hit em with everything and empty the playbook. Instead we go out with no game plan and no adjustments at all.

It's time for Gibbs to go. I've seen enough in 3 1/2 years.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Well I have heard 3 former Redskins in the last 24 hours say too bad and deal with it. Actually 4. Mark Scherleth (sp?) was on ESPN and he killed the Redskins. Bob Golic too. So when you have players who played the game at the highest level saying they had no problem with what NE did then you have to wonder.

Plus if they kicked the FG people would still be crying, and NE did pull the starters.

I've heard plenty of opinions on both sides of the issue from those in the media.

[12thMan]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Here we go again...... The bottom line is NE has a different mentality than us. They put in the back-ups to score. Has Matt Cassell ever throw a pass in the NFL? I don't think he has. So what good does it do to bring the guy in to hand the damn ball off? Get the guy some well needed game experience and try to score. What if Brady gets hurt? Get the next guy ready and the only way to do that is get him on the field during a game and let him throw some.

When we played SF it would have made sense to have Ramsey throw some passes so he could get some more game experience and knock off some rust. Why go in and hand it off so the opponent can kill your RB? It makes no damn sense. Again, it's the defenses responsibility to get off the field and stop the offense.

If I were coaching the Redskins ( and thank god I'm not) I would have pulled Randall Godrey aside and lit into his ass for crying like a little bitch. He has no balls what so ever and as far as I'm concerned ship his sorry ass back to Dallas.

I'm feeling you on Godfrey. I mean, what has the NFL turned into, the gentlemen's club? Who goes to the opposing coach and complains after a game. I don't want this guy on my team. No fight, no nasty. We need three more Sean Taylors and one more Laron Landry on this team. Too many soft asses...hell, let Portis play defense.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by 12thMan

I'm feeling you on Godfrey. I mean, what has the NFL turned into, the gentlemen's club? Who goes to the opposing coach and complains after a game. I don't want this guy on my team. No fight, no nasty. We need three more Sean Taylors and one more Laron Landry on this team. Too many soft asses...hell, let Portis play defense.

Honestly we should just cut him to send a message. We simply don't need guys like that.