Campbell's development curve

[SouperMeister]

Originally Posted by artmonkforhallofamein07

How many of you guys were screaming at the TV when the skins tried 5 or 6 screen plays to Widereicevers in the first half of the game on sunday? I know me and my fellow skins fans I was watching the game with were. Also on the Oline problems they are all centered around not having Jansen and Thomas. The other 3 guys Samuels, Kendall, and Rabach are getting the job done. The 3 fumbles on Sunday were all on Wade. He couldn't block Vrabel. Lord help us if the cowbays line up Ware on Wades side.

Wade only got beaten for one of the sacks. The other two were on Mike Sellers, with help from Portis that arrived late. Obviously, the blocking schemes did not account for Vrabel very well.

As for the screens, I was bothered more by the fact that Gibbs never called a stop and go for Moss against Asante Samuel. In the first quarter, it was clear as day that Samuel was jumping the sideline hitch to Moss, yet we never took advantage of that. Sometimes I wonder if Gibbs is watching the same game that we are. God forbid we risk a turnover by throwing a deep sideline pattern to Moss against a CB overplaying the short stuff.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by SouperMeister

Wade only got beaten for one of the sacks. The other two were on Mike Sellers, with help from Portis that arrived late. Obviously, the blocking schemes did not account for Vrabel very well.

As for the screens, I was bothered more by the fact that Gibbs never called a stop and go for Moss against Asante Samuel. In the first quarter, it was clear as day that Samuel was jumping the sideline hitch to Moss, yet we never took advantage of that. Sometimes I wonder if Gibbs is watching the same game that we are. God forbid we risk a turnover by throwing a deep sideline pattern to Moss against a CB overplaying the short stuff.

Why would Gibbs call anything when Saunders is the one calling the plays?

[SouperMeister]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Why would Gibbs call anything when Saunders is the one calling the plays?

Saunders may be calling the plays, but you cannot convince me that Gibbs isn't heavily influencing the conservative nature of the passing game. An earlier poster hit the nail on the head with the ridiculous number of WR screens we threw - NE was jumping all over those by overplaying their CBs near the line. Moss had zero chance to break one of those, and what better way to loosen that aggressive CB coverage than to challenge them downfield?

[MTK]

Originally Posted by SouperMeister

Saunders may be calling the plays, but you cannot convince me that Gibbs isn't heavily influencing the conservative nature of the passing game. An earlier poster hit the nail on the head with the ridiculous number of WR screens we threw - NE was jumping all over those by overplaying their CBs near the line. Moss had zero chance to break one of those, and what better way to loosen that aggressive CB coverage than to challenge them downfield?

Of course Gibbs is involved with the game plan, but he's not calling the plays.

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by SouperMeister

Saunders may be calling the plays, but you cannot convince me that Gibbs isn't heavily influencing the conservative nature of the passing game. An earlier poster hit the nail on the head with the ridiculous number of WR screens we threw - NE was jumping all over those by overplaying their CBs near the line. Moss had zero chance to break one of those, and what better way to loosen that aggressive CB coverage than to challenge them downfield?

From what I have seen from going to a game (Giants) and from what I have seen on TV (which is much harder to see) we have plenty of 15 to 20 yard routs. In the Giants game I saw 7 to 8 wide open WR's which JC did not see and it was not a case of not having enough time. In other games I have seen open WR's which JC missed and hit the short pass. So yes Gibbs in some cases has gone consevative but in allot of cases its JC not hitting the deaper guy. I'm not blaming JC just pointing out that he is still young and missing allot of bigger plays. I do agree that we need to try and hit some deeper passes but against the Pats that would have really opened JC up to taking some hits.