Who is "weakest" team with winning record?

[Sheriff Gonna Getcha]

Originally Posted by paulskinsfan

OK, have it your way. The Skins are, on defense:

18th in passing defense
23 in total yards allowed
15th in total scoring allowed
9th against the run

Im a fan, and Im a realist. If you cannot see that this team is a very mediocre team, then fine no one can convince you otherwise. There are several mediocre teams in the NFC. If you want to go strictly by wins then so be it.

They're 10th in yards, not 23rd. The 15th in scoring is a very skewed stat; they've allowed an opposing offense to score 20 points just twice this season and, if you look at each game, they've held opposing offenses to about 8 points under their average score. Aside from the Patriots game, the Redskins defense has been allowing opposing offenses to score just 13 points per game. If you're not satisfied with a defense allowing 13 points per game, you're never going to be satisfied with a defense.

I'll freely admit that the offense leaves a lot to be desired, but the defense is pretty damn stout. Why is it that many "Kool-Aid drinkers" are willing to concede that the offense has serious problems, but many of the team's critics won't admit that the defense is good.

[mheisig]

Originally Posted by Sheriff Gonna Getcha

They're 10th in yards, not 23rd. The 15th in scoring is a very skewed stat; they've allowed an opposing offense to score 20 points just twice this season and, if you look at each game, they've held opposing offenses to about 8 points under their average score. Aside from the Patriots game, the Redskins defense has been allowing opposing offenses to score just 13 points per game. If you're not satisfied with a defense allowing 13 points per game, you're never going to be satisfied with a defense.

I'll freely admit that the offense leaves a lot to be desired, but the defense is pretty damn stout. Why is it that many "Kool-Aid drinkers" are willing to concede that the offense has serious problems, but many of the team's critics won't admit that the defense is good.

The Patriots game skews the defensive stats like crazy. Obviously the stats are going to count every game and the Patriots were on our schedule, like it or not.

I think, however, that we can all agree that the Patriots are a rare exception in the league, not just this year either. Take out the Pats game and the defense is way up there.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by Sheriff Gonna Getcha

They're 10th in yards, not 23rd. The 15th in scoring is a very skewed stat; they've allowed an opposing offense to score 20 points just twice this season and, if you look at each game, they've held opposing offenses to about 8 points under their average score. Aside from the Patriots game, the Redskins defense has been allowing opposing offenses to score just 13 points per game. If you're not satisfied with a defense allowing 13 points per game, you're never going to be satisfied with a defense.

I'll freely admit that the offense leaves a lot to be desired, but the defense is pretty damn stout. Why is it that many "Kool-Aid drinkers" are willing to concede that the offense has serious problems, but many of the team's critics won't admit that the defense is good.

I think if we are going to use scoring defense, we can't just throw the Pats game out. It did happen, and we didn't stop them.

I think we should treat that game as a 35 spot. After all, anytime a defense gives up more than 35 points, it's not really a game anymore.